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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:02 am

my loft is 9.5 but the ball dun roll much as well
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:15 am

Ant wrote:
Ins't hitting long usually come with larger dispersion? ...... I think J B Holmes hit far but fairway % hit are lower than other pro..



To us mere mortals, yes. hitting longer usually comes with larger dispersion.

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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:55 pm

Ant wrote:
Thanks for the inputs guys.

Ins't hitting long usually come with larger dispersion? ...... I think J B Holmes hit far but fairway % hit are lower than other pro..


No lah... I still hit the fairways regularly... but usually the adjacent fairway... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:02 pm

alvin7379 wrote:
Ant wrote:
Thanks for the inputs guys.

Ins't hitting long usually come with larger dispersion? ...... I think J B Holmes hit far but fairway % hit are lower than other pro..


No lah... I still hit the fairways regularly... but usually the adjacent fairway... lol!


260m on borrowed fairways are not bad too..as long as don't disappear into the bushes or water..lol
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:51 pm

JB Holmes hits his drives with a power fade. Imagine his distance if he draws affraid

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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:08 pm

Those of you who are not getting much roll on landing should see a fitter and get spin rate measured on the launch monitor. I had that problem in the past, partly caused by my fade, but mostly due to backspin on the ball launching off the driver.

A session on the launch monitor showed that a switch from my Grafalloy Epic 75X to a Diamana wb 63X shaft reduced spin rates from 4000+ rpm to around 2600 rpm, and I'm getting quite a bit more roll as a result.
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:44 pm

Lower loft is not always the answer, a lot of Pro's used to use 6 degree drivers, not that long ago either, but now with computer technology, as ghook mentions you can see spin rate and launch angle, lower loft is not the answer.

Vijay Singh actually went to 10.5 degree.

One of the Pro's I work with has an 11.5 degree driver and he hit the 16th hole at Laguna in 2... Par 5 560 metres from back tees... huge drive... you have to look at all the stats and get the numbers that work for you, everyone is different!

As for teeing it lower, be careful, some people do that when starting out to stop skying the shot, but actually a lower ball can make you come in a bit steeper path which will cause the ball to go high and right....

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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:31 pm

True, but I was also under the impression that if you're playing into headwind, lower loft does make a difference, as it reduces the amount of lift generated by the headwind.

In my case, when playing at The Els Club, there are a couple of holes where headwind comes into a play, and I have seen playing pros humbled when playing into this headwind using 10.5* drivers. If I know that I'm going to playing in windy conditions, I usually stick to 9* or lower (I have a Titleist 905R (low spin head) in 8.5* with a Diamana WB 73X (a low launching, low-spin shaft for this) driver to keep wind out of play as much as I can. However, when playing in the mornings where the fairways are still drenched in dew, I won't get much roll out of these low-lofted drivers

That said, when playing with tailwind, a higher lofted club would definitely help gain 20 yds of distance easily. If I play with the 8.5* 905R or my 9* Tour Burner LCG driver, then I'll put my TM R7 HFS tour spoon (13*) in the bag to tee off in morning rounds.

For me, it's knowing what to put in the bag depending on course layout and course conditions, which depends on time of play and wind conditions. Playing at 9 am means I have fewer holes with dew than playing at 7 am, and I pick my wedges accordingly as well since a wet green stops the ball differently from a dry green (afternoon rounds)
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:52 pm

ghoonk......how many drivers do you actually have??????
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:04 pm

I am talking mainly about beginner swing, where they tend to lunge a bit at the ball...

Pro's are not humbled, they take the sensible option Very Happy Ego does not count, the last PGA event at Laguna 2 Pro's teed off 8th hole with a driver... 190M par 3....

Play smart my friend... you only write a number in a small box at the end of the hole!

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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:05 pm

1 x TM 10.7* Tour Burner (tour issued), FA 2.5*, Diamana Ali'Islei shaft S flex
1 x TM 9* Tour Burner LCG (tour issued), FA 1.5*, TM tour-issued Diamana whiteboard 63x X-flex shaft
1 x Titleist 905R (retail head) 8.5* loft, Diamana Whiteboard 73x, S flex shaft
1 x King Cobra (retail head) L4V-F/9* loft, Diamana Whiteboard 63x, S flex shaft
1 x Titleist 975D 7.5* loft, True Temper DG S300 shaft, 43"

That's about it. I think...

Selling my Ping G10 with Fujikura Rombax 6Z08 shaft in S flex. Real bomber but I'm into face open drivers these days, so it's now at BFG up for sale Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:06 pm

shorthitter wrote:
I am talking mainly about beginner swing, where they tend to lunge a bit at the ball...

Pro's are not humbled, they take the sensible option Very Happy Ego does not count, the last PGA event at Laguna 2 Pro's teed off 8th hole with a driver... 190M par 3....

Play smart my friend... you only write a number in a small box at the end of the hole!


So very true. Just use the equipment that gets the job done Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:07 pm

ghoonk wrote:
shorthitter wrote:
I am talking mainly about beginner swing, where they tend to lunge a bit at the ball...

Pro's are not humbled, they take the sensible option Very Happy Ego does not count, the last PGA event at Laguna 2 Pro's teed off 8th hole with a driver... 190M par 3....

Play smart my friend... you only write a number in a small box at the end of the hole!


So very true. Just use the equipment that gets the job done Smile


In my case a can of Tiger gets the job done very nicely.... Very Happy lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:06 pm

Should load you up with a carton of Tiger and see how your game progresses through the round Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Driver shot - no roll   Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:50 pm

shorthitter wrote:

In my case a can of Tiger gets the job done very nicely.... Very Happy lol!


Think I am playing in your flight on Wednesday... I'll standby a carton for you mate! What a Face
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