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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:02 am

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Oh, sorry. I thought Brett from wizgolf. I think the first foot is so critical cos most putters can't might just skid through the first foot.

No worry , just trying to prevent Amy misleading information.

Personally, I think that is important too, but before the first foot, green reading is critical to determine the intended path.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:27 am

Yeap..... you are correct to say that. I am taught the following...
Ball Fast/Downhill = less Break
Ball Slow/Uphill = more break
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:22 am

Duffy, Right and Wrong in your interpretion.
If you are talking about green reading, usually downhill putt will break more and uphill putt break lesser.
I guess the first foot thing that Wizgolf talking about is for the alignment of putt.
In
green reading, I like to divide the putt into 3 portions. 1st portion,
ball speed is the faster and it break the least or no break at all. 2nd
portion, ball speed slower down and break start to come in but at
moderate level. 3rd portion, which is the nearest to the hole is the
most crucial and break the most, I will consider the break and the grain
direction of the green in this portion.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:28 am

JC, i am referring to your breakdown.... now then you say, last time ask you, you say you dunno, just base on luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:31 am

Last time you ask me, I am asking you for strokes mah, how can tell you? Razz
Moreover I just anyhow guess lah, don't believe me too much! lol!

BTW, Luck play very important role in putting..... the more you practice, the luckier you become! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:41 am

jimmychoo wrote:
duffader wrote:
Yeap..... you are correct to say that. I am taught the following...
Ball Fast/Downhill = less Break
Ball Slow/Uphill = more break

Duffy, Right and Wrong in your interpretion.
If you are talking about green reading, usually downhill putt will break more and uphill putt break lesser.
I guess the first foot thing that Wizgolf talking about is for the alignment of putt.
In green reading, I like to divide the putt into 3 portions. 1st portion, ball speed is the faster and it break the least or no break at all. 2nd portion, ball speed slower down and break start to come in but at moderate level. 3rd portion, which is the nearest to the hole is the most crucial and break the most, I will consider the break and the grain direction of the green in this portion.

master JC

i would like to clarify again, WizGolf did not teach the first foot thing...
alignment of putt is part of the Edel Putter fitting process...

btw, very good information about green reading...keke
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:47 am

master dreaming JC
That's more like it......
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:11 am

jimmychoo wrote:
master dreaming JC
That's more like it......

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:51 pm

jimmychoo wrote:
I will consider the break and the grain
direction
of the green in this portion.

Valid pointer from JC..
BTW a newbie qns...are we allowed to feel the greens/grass direction before putting??
Any rules infringements?? Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:55 pm

wilkang wrote:
jimmychoo wrote:
I will consider the break and the grain
direction
of the green in this portion.

Valid pointer from JC..
BTW a newbie qns...are we allowed to feel the greens/grass direction before putting??
Any rules infringements?? Smile

You not supposed to touch the grass infront you. you can only remove if there are some loose impediments, once you touch it and you are deem to have improve your line (which is confirmed most of the time), you will get a penalty.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:56 pm

Thanks Duffadder Very Happy

Touch the grass behind or side?

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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:58 pm

repair ball mark?
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:59 pm

You cannot "feel" the grass to determine the direction of the grain.

16-1 (USGA)
• d. Testing Surface
During the play of a hole, a player must not test the surface of the putting green by rolling a ball or roughening or scraping the surface.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:01 pm

arh...wilkang, dun anyhow touch touch, rub rub hor .....got penalty !!

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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:03 pm

Repair yes, because i think they get fine for not repairing their own pitch marks. Even our usual social play where we take the putter and stamp on the line is consider a penalty in a touranment. Just in case you guys dunno.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:05 pm

if pitch mark along the line of putt? can it be repair?
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:07 pm

pitchmarks can always be repaired...does not matter if they are along the line of the putt.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:07 pm

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if pitch mark along the line of putt? can it be repair?

It can be. but when you stamp with your putter, make sure its just round the pitch mark. And for those old pitchmarks, I think you msut ask for yoru opponent permission before you can repair them.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:11 pm

i have a friend who will go around and repairing pitchmark whenever he is waiting for his turn to putt...
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:12 pm

that's what i was briefed previously. Anyway, thanks for the confirmation & sharing bro
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:20 pm

Yeap.. i have been educated very well when i first started golf cos my bro is part of the green committee. And also, very common with local golfers, then tend to drag the feet which will damage the greens.
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PostSubject: Re: Zen vs Edel Putters   Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:03 pm

Thanks Dan & Duffadder...Great sharing of information. cheers cheers

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