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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:19 pm

Stricker is a great visual image to have. More of an arm swing!

A good drill to help shallow out the angle of attack is to hit some wedges off a tee. (Tee it up about the same as you would for a 3 wood) If you get too steep, impact will be too high on the face and will feel "clunky". It will encourage a shallower angle of attack, more of a sweeping motion.

Most amateurs would kill for the lag you have. Be good to see some "after" videos!
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:47 pm

why got no slo-mo video from you new hi-tech camera??
hahaha...

I wished I had half as good a swing as you..
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:00 pm

Rex, yr swing........ no horse run..... very nice, very pro... haven play with u know will lose liao...
but yr swing give average ppl an inferior feel... no matter how hard we try, we can nvr be the same.... Sad

SS, yr TSS different leh.... it makes ppl feel tht it's possible to play well even for average guy!! Shocked as long as u willing to coach us, we can do it!!
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:48 pm

jaketang wrote:
Rex, yr swing........ no horse run..... very nice, very pro... haven play with u know will lose liao...
but yr swing give average ppl an inferior feel... no matter how hard we try, we can nvr be the same.... Sad

SS, yr TSS different leh.... it makes ppl feel tht it's possible to play well even for average guy!! Shocked as long as u willing to coach us, we can do it!!


SS is no average guy ... IMHO .... that swing , that glow ..... that smile ... Swing
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:58 pm

mr lam, u got it wrong....

SS is definitely not average....

thing is, he got so many type of swing... and the best part he can use an average swing to beat any other type of swing!!!!

tht's impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:03 pm

Sorry i am wrong .... in a confused state of mind .... Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:32 am

OK folks, for those who are half-believing what I am trying to say, here is a series of 45yd pitch shots on a par 3. (There was nobody behind us so managed to sneak some videos in).

Even with a half swing and such a short distance, you can see some zip on the balls on these Floridan greens:

1st 45yd pitch



2nd 45yd pitch



3rd 45yd pitch


Another way I used to play this is to accept the spin and hit it further behind:
45yd pitch extra zip.


BTW, its some sort of Patriot's Golf Day event of sort today before Labor Day tmr. That is why they have all the flagsticks with the US Flag on the golf course.

Here's to you KT!


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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:46 am

Hi rex, wow not sure abt control but from yr clips, who dare to play with u? lolz

but from TV, some of those pro's at times spinned more then you but still see them play it during the tournament...
so it might be that with certain kind of set-up, the spin can only be controlled up to a certain level (for certain type of shot?)
so if the greens are too reactive n flag too far behind, you can only hit n check ?
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:53 am

Yes Jake. I was just highlighting the fact that even from 45yds, the ball has some action on it. I am having problems hitting those full AW 100yd shots where the spin back is doubled that of the 45yd extra zip shot shown. It is tough to get the ball close when its a full swing with one of the wedges.

I think RSC's tips is teaching me how to hit n check to minimise it.
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:06 am

not sure if it is any help to u... i consulted my pro... another way to control is via how much divot you are taking... his exact words.. "how much you hitting it down..."
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:25 am

Rex, you are my mentor!!

Awesome clips. I always found it hard to believe that it could be done so effortlessly but you've showed me otherwise.

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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:36 am

Er..thanks but if I was your mentor, we will both be blind. Laughing

I wanted to go back to the ladies tees to showcase a few 100yd full zip action shots but I didn't wanna jeopardise TSL's life! Laughing

There are some things I can do slightly better than the average golfer but I still need work on my game overall to be consistently trying to shoot under par.

You are better off asking JL to give you some coaching tips. I think she is wayyy better in her overall game than me. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:38 am

Haha! Any chance you can also get some videos of your short game shots from the fringe of the green to the 50yard mark?

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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:43 am

I will try in due time dude. Wink Right now, I'm posting more vids cos I'm loving my new Casio camera so I'm taking everything possible. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:47 am

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I will try in due time dude. Wink Right now, I'm posting more vids cos I'm loving my new Casio camera so I'm taking everything possible. Razz

Cool! Thanks Smile Hope you're also enjoying life in the US! My best to TSL too.

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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:06 am

Technospaz wrote:
S70B wrote:
I will try in due time dude. Wink Right now, I'm posting more vids cos I'm loving my new Casio camera so I'm taking everything possible. Razz

Cool! Thanks Smile Hope you're also enjoying life in the US! My best to TSL too.

Thanks Technospaz! Best wishes to you too! Very Happy

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying reading all your posts on GR... btw, I see you're reaching your 3000th post pretty soon! You're amazing. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:10 am

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Technospaz wrote:
S70B wrote:
I will try in due time dude. Wink Right now, I'm posting more vids cos I'm loving my new Casio camera so I'm taking everything possible. Razz

Cool! Thanks Smile Hope you're also enjoying life in the US! My best to TSL too.

Thanks Technospaz! Best wishes to you too! Very Happy

Meanwhile, I'm enjoying reading all your posts on GR... btw, I see you're reaching your 3000th post pretty soon! You're amazing. cheers

Since I can't bedazzle folks on the course like S70B, I have to spend my time trying to shock others here Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:22 am

T-Rex, 4 x 45 yrds. All near the PIN. Still complaining? Want me to come over and give you kick ar.. Btw, looking from your chip shot, it already give me a lot of inspiration. My Idol - T-REX...
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:26 am

Kay P...I mean KK, if you r willing to come over I sure will be waiting. It will only cost you just 3 x Mizuno iron sets excl taxes for the economy seat. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:00 am

Wah... S70B is good, but TSL is amazing!!!
She's willing to video down those shots for S70B.

My wife would have killed me if I even suggested her to do such a thing. But can't really blame her; with my skill or lack-of, I'd probably send the ball straight to her..... 8)
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:39 am

Rex, I am not a pro and are trying very hard to break 100.
I have been using a very shallow swing path with very little corking of the right wrist to produce those bump and run shot.
I don't know whether it sound funny or not, this is what I do - For a 50 yards, I will move my club to 9 o'clock position then swing down with a very shallow (or shall i call it flat?) angle and finish my HAND at 3 o'clock. The key here is minimum right wrist corking and maintain the wrist angle thru out the swing.
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:51 am

Haha, thanks JC! My original post was on how to hit those full wedge shots >100 yds without having this spin back.

I dun have much problem with these 50 yarders as I just anticipate the spin and reaction of the ball. Instead of catering for the ball to run a little on landing, I just fly it to the flag or even past it.

I think RSC, MC and your posts all make sense: shallow the swing path and lessen the lag. I also took more club to try and hit a cut off release. This needs time to practice but I will be looking into having to master this shot as part of my arsenal.

For my game today, I didn't have time to practice the less lag shot. There was only once where I had a 115 yarder into the wind today. I took a 3/4 PW and tried to lessen the lag coming down. My divot is still a little deep though but the ball thankfully didn't spin as much.

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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:19 pm

another "slurp" video.. amazing skills there.

initially i was thinking that in such a scenario, where you can expect the behavior of the ball to zip the same all the time on those tifeagles, then a quick fix would be to compensate by catering for a further pin position and then have the ball come back.

however, on second thoughts, it would be challenging then to apply this fix across 18 holes because the distance for approach shots varies from wedges to mid to long irons and i doubt that long irons would produce the same amount of backspin when compared to a wedge, hence there wouldn't be a need to cater for added distance.

the other peculiar situation would be aiming for back-pins with a wedge on hand, if the ball spin cause such a drastic zip then the land point would have to be on the fringe instead, but landing on the fringe would downplay the ball's reaction.



in summary, no tips here for me, but advocacy for adding a new shot style to your already wide repertoire.
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:55 pm

jimmychoo wrote:
Rex, I am not a pro and are trying very hard to break 100.

Hmm...a 14 hcp trying very hard to break 100 Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Pros - How do you control backspin?   Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:37 pm

kinkipet wrote:
jimmychoo wrote:
Rex, I am not a pro and are trying very hard to break 100.

Hmm...a 14 hcp trying very hard to break 100 Rolling Eyes
Typo error is it?
Hmm...a 24 hcp trying very hard to break 100
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