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How many strokes less from red tee?
Play worse
17%
 17% [ 3 ]
0: No Improvement
11%
 11% [ 2 ]
1-3 strokes less
11%
 11% [ 2 ]
4-6 strokes less
44%
 44% [ 8 ]
7-9 strokes less
6%
 6% [ 1 ]
10 or more strokes less
11%
 11% [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 18
 

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Derek
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PostSubject: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:31 pm

Hi Guys,

Just curious how many shots do most of us think we would improve by if we played from the red tee.


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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:33 pm

For me, at least 5-6 strokes per game.

It would make the par 4s above 350metres easier, but might make the shorter par 3s tougher.
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:36 pm

Why?

You planning to introduce red tee day at MBGC ah?

Must wear skirt to play or not? ROFL
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:38 pm

HEHEH ... skirt PLUS bikini top ... then ask mediacorp to cover ... next day I'll be out of a job!!

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:38 pm

why need a red tee day? just move all the blue and white tees up to red tee. all 3 tees side by side.

ROFL

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:39 pm

Mloy, when Derek makes that happen, i will challenge you at MBGC!

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:45 pm

eiji wrote:
why need a red tee day? just move all the blue and white tees up to red tee. all 3 tees side by side.

ROFL

Then they will have enough real estate to make MBGC a 27 hole course.
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:59 pm

It might not be necessarily easier as one can be caught in an "in-beyween" club situation. There was once I played in Ria Bintan with a 8-hdp and another 12-hdp. It was an invitational tournament and for some strange reasons, Ria Bintan pushed the white tees up to yellow (which is just before the red). These guys started well - with birdies and pars. But as the game wore on, the started to struggle as they fine that they are in between club after a good drive. Ended up the 8-hdp played 88 and the 12-hdp shot 90.

So it is more of course management than the actual length of the course.

My 2-cents worth sunny
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:18 am

I dunno, but I cant wait to try...

Let's see how I would score if I drive as long as Corn or Alvin

What is it with the skirts thing? It's the forward tee Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:52 am

Derek, this question could be re-phrased to; how much better your score would be if you suddenly gain 30m to 60m in driving distance? (Depending where we currently tee off from)

Another interesting question to be posed/experimented is this:

How much better your score would be if the hole is three times larger in diameter?

Golfdigest USA did such experiment over a golf tournament with 15 inch diameter and the avg reduction for high handicapper was 5-6 strokes off. Slightly more for single hcaps.

Both questions combined should put the debate abt "drive for sho, putt for dough" to rest Very Happy

If you can make it happen at mbgc, that would be innovative and awesome, imo.




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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:02 am

Same score as white? Me not long hitter so likely that will end up with using just a short club to the green for 2nd shot, unlike others who will drive to the green in one and then miss Eagle putt? ROFL Oops, below the belt... sorry Corn..... sunny
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:25 am

Hey Pushslice,

I am definitely also looking at the large hole thingy to see how feasible it can be, might do it for a novelty tournament ... we need to assess the damage it will do to the green and the additional cost of having a whole bunch of oversized hole cups ... maybe if we got a sponsor ... hmmm

Yes, the questioned can also be viewed as how much lower would you score if you gained 30-60 meters in driving distance. I remember a famous quote that the fastest way to gain 50m from your drive to to start 50m forward of where you normally tee off from!

I know some people feel that playing off the red tee is a waste of money. I was just wondering if you guys would be willing to entertain the idea.

It might be quite interesting to see if the expectation of scoring lower would translate into added pressure resulting in poorer scores.


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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:32 am

It would be nice to have some male company at the Red tee. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:35 am

mloy wrote:
It would be nice to have some male company at the Red tee. Razz

Given how I'm playing... my drives will land on the red tee box and we can play off that, k?

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:38 am

mloy wrote:
It would be nice to have some male company at the Red tee. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:42 am

Technospaz wrote:
mloy wrote:
It would be nice to have some male company at the Red tee. Razz

Given how I'm playing... my drives will land on the red tee box and we can play off that, k?

Come on TS! Your drives are good if only you remember to spread your legs wi__de.....take a deep breath and whack! sure go straight one.

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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:15 am

blee2007 wrote:
Same score as white? Me not long hitter so likely that will end up with using just a short club to the green for 2nd shot, unlike others who will drive to the green in one and then miss Eagle putt? ROFL Oops, below the belt... sorry Corn..... sunny

it's ok... i oredi immune to it... sigh...
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PostSubject: Re: How much better would you play from the RED tee?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:32 am

Like I say, I pm you my rates to learn about a different way of putting? Ask Vinny...

Btw, Vinny, you have not paid your billl hor... ROFL
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