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PostSubject: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:26 pm

Hi bros,

I've got 56 and 60 degree wedges ... Which one is better for the bunker?? Understand that 56 is the usual SW with higher bounce ... But isn't higher loft easier to blast the ball out of the bunker?? Thanks ... New here Swing
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:36 pm

I typically use my 58 Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:42 pm

mr joe wrote:
Hi bros,

I've got 56 and 60 degree wedges ... Which one is better for the bunker?? Understand that 56 is the usual SW with higher bounce ... But isn't higher loft easier to blast the ball out of the bunker?? Thanks ... New here Swing

Instead of choosing which club to bring.

Why don't you bring both?

Just like TW wedge combo set. TW carries a 56 & 60*

With 56, you can de-loft it to 52 and 54* for your approach shot

and with 69, you can also de-loft it to 58 for your lob/flop shot
and 60 for your sand shots

Golf Pro's nowadays who uses 56 are a few.
Tom Watson uses 56
and Bill Haas is 54*
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:46 pm

mr joe wrote:
Hi bros,

I've got 56 and 60 degree wedges ... Which one is better for the bunker?? Understand that 56 is the usual SW with higher bounce ... But isn't higher loft easier to blast the ball out of the bunker?? Thanks ... New here Swing

It's the bounce that does the 'blasting' function, not the loft.

Take both wedges, try some bunker shots, and you'll find out why the higher bounce makes it easier to the get the ball out.
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:54 pm

I would say that it depends on the bounce you have but assuming that both club has the same bounce, it would depend on how high the bunker is I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:16 pm

If higher bounce SW is easier to blast the ball out, what is the advantage of using a LW for sands? For higher bunker? Do most of the pros use SW or LW ?
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:32 pm

Pros aim to hole out from bunker or put near... amateurs or beginners like us, aim to hit out.
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:33 pm

just use any wedge with at least 10 degree bounce

gw 52 goes lower and further
sw 56 goes high and near
lw 60 goes higher and nearer

most pros can use any wedge bcoz they go skillzzz. we hackers should simplify our choices and based it on the distance you want to carry ball out of the bunker. Same swing, same bounce.

How to know distances? practice lor
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:40 pm

mr joe wrote:
If higher bounce SW is easier to blast the ball out, what is the advantage of using a LW for sands? For higher bunker? Do most of the pros use SW or LW ?

With higher loft, the launch angle is higher, the ball will fly higher but shorter.

So if the lip is high, higher loft is called for, achieved either by using a higher lofted club or opening up the face of the club.

But point to note, with a more lofted club, more precision is required because you are presenting a smaller effective surface area to the point of impact.

For example, on a thin lie on the fairway, it is easier to chip with say a 9 iron or a PW, compared with a 60 deg wedge, for the same reason.

The advantage of using a higher loft like LW is that one can impart more spin on the shot. For instance, if the pin is cut close, not a lot of green to work with, and the green is fast and sloping away from you, that's when more spin is required.
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:59 pm

loft is launch angle applicable on whether you're in bunker or on fairway.
bounce I think is something to do with the thickness of the sole of the club, normally used to bounce the club on sand bunker (since you're hitting behind the ball).

My home club is MBGC, so 60 for me is a must since my skill is still lousy and sometimes even this failed to get the ball out Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:00 pm

loft is launch angle applicable on whether you're in bunker or on fairway.
bounce I think is something to do with the thickness of the sole of the club, normally used to bounce the club on sand bunker (since you're hitting behind the ball).

My home club is MBGC, so 60 for me is a must since my skill is still lousy and sometimes even this failed to get the ball out Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:05 pm

From a practical perspective ... what type of bunkers do you face on the courses that you usually play on?

If for example, you play at Marina Bay often, with Pot bunkers, a 60 deg is going to be a useful tool

However, a 56 degree is more versatile, and easier to use. It will also get you out of the vast majority of bunkers with the correct technique.

If you do not intend to play at MBGC often, suggest that you go with a 56.

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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:53 pm

wa lau, if you play at MBGC, buy a 64...

i keep a 64 at home just for MBGC bunkers
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:01 pm

At mbgc, I only use H wedge! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:06 pm

I have learnt to hit backwards from mbgc bunkers......
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:09 pm

duffader wrote:
At mbgc, I only use H wedge! Smile

Same here... same h e r e Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:25 pm

Technospaz wrote:
duffader wrote:
At mbgc, I only use H wedge! Smile

Same here... same h e r e Sad

Pls scoop some sand with the throw.....

U have to keep it REAL.....
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:31 pm

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Technospaz wrote:
duffader wrote:
At mbgc, I only use H wedge! Smile

Same here... same h e r e Sad

Pls scoop some sand with the throw.....

U have to keep it REAL.....

My fingers are close together so they form grooves... Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:46 pm

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I have learnt to hit backwards from mbgc bunkers......

LOL! .... me too!

However, sometimes hit backwards also need 60 degree ... especially if the bunker has not enough sand has not been topped up for a while

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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:50 pm

Your fingers that fat........

No wonder the ball can check.....

Soli man, bored waiting at LCCT for my flight home....
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:51 pm

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Your fingers that fat........

No wonder the ball can check.....

Soli man, bored waiting at LCCT for my flight home....

Watch my fingers check your face later Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:56 pm

How deep is the mbgc bunker sia... I only play in m'sia courses ... Not very challenging one ... I guess 56 will be fine for me ... I've 52,56 & 60 ... Just that I'm curious on whether 60 is a better option for sands ... Guess that will be up to individual again... It's like there is no definite answer in golf ... E.g the debate on forged and cast irons ...
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:14 pm

Derek wrote:
slinger wrote:
I have learnt to hit backwards from mbgc bunkers......

LOL! .... me too!

However, sometimes hit backwards also need 60 degree ... especially if the bunker has not enough sand has not been topped up for a while

Discovered two more ways to escape from MBGC pot bunkers.

1. If near to either left or right side of the bunker wall, launch a low shot into the curved wall, the ball will slingshot around the wall and exit the other side. Saw someone do this by accident and that gave me the idea to try it for fun. In what situation it will be useful, I don't know.

2. If the wall is just a little out of clearance height, I still try. Hit harder and allow for the ball to bump off the front wall up towards the sky. Ball comes down and lands dead since it is literally going straight up and coming straight down after contact with the wall.

No guarantees of course, but I'll take any option to try and get out in one. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:35 pm

Birdy, straight up and hit the wall and land back at the bunker lei.
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PostSubject: Re: Sand wedge 56 or 60 degree???   Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:44 pm

Angle must be just about right la.... Cannot too close to the wall... agar-ration is like a modified bump and run.
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