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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:50 pm

it's really frustrating to know that ur wedge, short irons and mid irons vary between 10m but when come to long iron and woods is a puny 5-3 m. i think there's no fix formula for distance regardless how consistent ur swing is. just do ur yardages before going green and stick with that.
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:10 pm

I think although swing speed is constant, it must be spelled out (e.g. 100 mph?)

For a very slow swing speed, carry distance for high lofted ends up further.
For a very fast swing speed, carry distance for low lofted ends up further.

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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:12 pm

http://www.csgnetwork.com/golfclubdistancecalce.html

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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:40 pm

Since we are discussing abt distance and loft. Here is something to think abt....

Assuming that the length and weight is the same...

Which club can you hit further?

7 or 8 iron?

3 or 4 iron?

10.5* or 8.5* driver?
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:11 pm

For me. 7, 4, 10.5.
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:43 pm

sandkie wrote:
For me. 7, 4, 10.5.

Just my guess...

You choose a 4 iron over a 3 iron is because you can't hit handle a 3 iron?

You choose a 10.5* driver cos you can't launch a 8.5* driver?



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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:54 pm

CoastGuy wrote:
sandkie wrote:
For me. 7, 4, 10.5.

Just my guess...

You choose a 4 iron over a 3 iron is because you can't hit handle a 3 iron?

You choose a 10.5* driver cos you can't launch a 8.5* driver?



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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:15 pm

Haha.. No lah.. Just thought of sharing some views that i share with you that time when we played. If it can help them hit further y not. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:20 pm

mizzy wrote:
CoastGuy wrote:
sandkie wrote:
For me. 7, 4, 10.5.

Just my guess...

You choose a 4 iron over a 3 iron is because you can't hit handle a 3 iron?

You choose a 10.5* driver cos you can't launch a 8.5* driver?



Sorry if my choice of words is too harsh.. English no good... Very Happy

ROFL CG, what got into you?... correction who got into u? blee?

What does that got to do with me? Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:23 pm

blee2007 wrote:
mizzy wrote:
CoastGuy wrote:
sandkie wrote:
For me. 7, 4, 10.5.

Just my guess...

You choose a 4 iron over a 3 iron is because you can't hit handle a 3 iron?

You choose a 10.5* driver cos you can't launch a 8.5* driver?



Sorry if my choice of words is too harsh.. English no good... Very Happy

ROFL CG, what got into you?... correction who got into u? blee?

What does that got to do with me? Suspect

Yah lor... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:34 pm

CoastGuy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
mizzy wrote:
CoastGuy wrote:
sandkie wrote:
For me. 7, 4, 10.5.

Just my guess...

You choose a 4 iron over a 3 iron is because you can't hit handle a 3 iron?

You choose a 10.5* driver cos you can't launch a 8.5* driver?



Sorry if my choice of words is too harsh.. English no good... Very Happy

ROFL CG, what got into you?... correction who got into u? blee?

What does that got to do with me? Suspect

Yah lor... scratch

he the master SS lor
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:19 pm

That still got nothing to do with what CG says ah. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:03 pm

guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but the swing speed that is measure is the speed of the club head, right ? If this is correct then the swing speed can be constant (ie your body rotation is constant) but the club head speed will vary. The longer the club the faster the club head will go.

So, on a sandwedge you can get say 70 and on your driver you can get 110. and most of that speed comes from the fact that sandwedge and driver lenght are very very different. Think of radius. when you swing a short club, you draw a small circle it takes you say 1 seconds. Now get a longer club and you draw a larger circle at the same 1 seconds. Since the circle is bigger it means it travel further than the small one. Since the time is constant that means the club head is traveling faster to cover the increased distance.

Does that make sense ?
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:12 am

dmateo wrote:
guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but the swing speed that is measure is the speed of the club head, right ? If this is correct then the swing speed can be constant (ie your body rotation is constant) but the club head speed will vary. The longer the club the faster the club head will go.

Swing speed = club head speed at impact

There is no measure, to the best of my knowledge, of body rotation.

Shaft length and weight, full vs 3/4 swing, casting vs delayed release, and effort put in are only few of many factors that dictate swing speed ...

Extra General Knowlege: quality of contact is dictated by smash factor , = ball speed/ swing speed ... In other words efficiency ... Output/ input!
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:45 am

that makes sense also for 1/2 swing, 3/4 swing, 1/4 swing, putter swing will also dictate club swing.

But I thougt we are talking about same swing with different club (loft the term used on previous conversation)here, so I was assuming you use differenc club with the same swing (I used term body rotation, so that was incorrect). So the variable in question is the loft of the club AND the length of the club and how they impact distance.
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:44 pm

ceteris paribus then ... Loft and length affect distance ... For irons around 50% each, i.e. 3-4 deg loft and 0.5 inch length have approx. an equal impact of 5m each
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:31 pm

dmateo wrote:
that makes sense also for 1/2 swing, 3/4 swing, 1/4 swing, putter swing will also dictate club swing.

But I thougt we are talking about same swing with different club (loft the term used on previous conversation)here, so I was assuming you use differenc club with the same swing (I used term body rotation, so that was incorrect). So the variable in question is the loft of the club AND the length of the club and how they impact distance.

Just for discussion...

I am assuming distance means carry distance, leaving roll out of it.

Even trying to use the 'same swing', the body will react to the club in hand and rotate at a different pace through impact.

The swing that loads a PW well and send the ball flying will fail miserably in trying to load a 3 iron or 4 iron.

Try to hit the 3 iron the same way that one hits an 8 iron, one can safely assume the ball will not go far.

Secondly, the distance gap in an iron set is not caused by loft alone. We also have shaft weight, shaft flex, shaft bend profile, club head offset, location of COG, sole grind (turf interaction) etc. which may also affect distance.

So, mathematically speaking, calculating the distance as a function of loft is not so straight forward.

To cut through all that, back to rule of thumb. About 10m gap. Works for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:56 pm

just wanna add something....

One of our touring Golf Pro who I met discussed and shared to me that we should developed a

'3 shot distance" on every irons. from a full swing, 3/4 and 1/4 swing.

And from there you can more or less determine your distance by aid of a friend who would jot down your golf ball flight when your hitting @ the range.

Of course this are approximate shot, considering the balls @ the ranged are not so kinda worn out
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PostSubject: Re: Distance vs loft   Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:43 pm

wah Lee comment is so complicated.
I think need to use advance calculus to calculate the distance taking all those factor into consideration affraid

Anyway 10meter per club head is good enough for me.
P = 100m
3 = 170m

hmm..maybe not quite so straight forward after all Laughing
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