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PostSubject: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:42 pm

I planned to play more serious golf as really hate to become 100plus ...although able to play 90+ sometimes but is quite inconsistence...

any pro here can recommend me on how to schedule my training...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

hopefully can achieve my own target with a better training plan...

thanks for anyone who give meaningful comment thanks...
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:14 pm

Your pic look very pro already... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:28 pm

If you really want to get better , you should seriously consider getting a coach. No two ways about it
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:29 pm

do you know why you're on 90's and the 100's. And what is your biggest contributor to your stroke count ? that should give some pointer on how to lower your score and things to concentrate on I would think.

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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:33 pm

Golf magazine/PGA pro Brady Riggs has a plan for you....

http://www.golf.com/golf/instruction/article/0,28136,2053353,00.html

Happy practicing!
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:46 pm

Gee Thanks for that PDF! Ive printed it out, and am gonna start this week! Anyone care to join me?
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:49 pm

Tfp, think I have the magazine with that article, got pics, some tips on technique etc. Can give to u.
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:39 pm

thanks all pro here...haha i will try to master this sport as hard as i could...hopefully can i can be an amateur golfer...
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:02 am

TheFocalPoint wrote:
Your pic look very pro already... Smile

Bro, don't mock at me...i not good at all...
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:39 am

efoong wrote:
TheFocalPoint wrote:
Your pic look very pro already... Smile

Bro, don't mock at me...i not good at all...

Actually he is right, you do look very pro. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:11 am

efoong wrote:
I planned to play more serious golf as really hate to become 100plus ...although able to play 90+ sometimes but is quite inconsistence...

any pro here can recommend me on how to schedule my training...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

hopefully can achieve my own target with a better training plan...

thanks for anyone who give meaningful comment thanks...


i suggest u keep your score card after every round.....

analyse your score....

why u blow certain holes.....


say in the score box where u write your score.....

upper right hand corner.... tick if u drive well, cross if u din

lower right hand corner...... how many putts u need

left hand corner for other remarks.... like GIR, OB water etc

end of round, look at your score, find how many ticks or cross or whatever that shows why u play that score....

from there u will know what u need to do.... hopefully
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:14 am

Slinger, I know why I blow the holes... When you hit such nice tee shots and approaches to the green together with such fine puttings, I gave up liao.... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:17 am

slinger wrote:
efoong wrote:
I planned to play more serious golf as really hate to become 100plus ...although able to play 90+ sometimes but is quite inconsistence...

any pro here can recommend me on how to schedule my training...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

hopefully can achieve my own target with a better training plan...

thanks for anyone who give meaningful comment thanks...


i suggest u keep your score card after every round.....

analyse your score....

why u blow certain holes.....


say in the score box where u write your score.....

upper right hand corner.... tick if u drive well, cross if u din

lower right hand corner...... how many putts u need

left hand corner for other remarks.... like GIR, OB water etc

end of round, look at your score, find how many ticks or cross or whatever that shows why u play that score....

from there u will know what u need to do.... hopefully

Just find you can already la. No need so troublesome.
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:27 am

Kookk wrote:
slinger wrote:
efoong wrote:
I planned to play more serious golf as really hate to become 100plus ...although able to play 90+ sometimes but is quite inconsistence...

any pro here can recommend me on how to schedule my training...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

hopefully can achieve my own target with a better training plan...

thanks for anyone who give meaningful comment thanks...


i suggest u keep your score card after every round.....

analyse your score....

why u blow certain holes.....


say in the score box where u write your score.....

upper right hand corner.... tick if u drive well, cross if u din

lower right hand corner...... how many putts u need

left hand corner for other remarks.... like GIR, OB water etc

end of round, look at your score, find how many ticks or cross or whatever that shows why u play that score....

from there u will know what u need to do.... hopefully

Just find you can already la. No need so troublesome.




u need to call me for game soon...... before u kenna buaya by seiko n gang
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:34 am

blee2007 wrote:
Slinger, I know why I blow the holes... When you hit such nice tee shots and approaches to the green together with such fine puttings, I gave up liao.... Sad



soli to disappoint u..... i still need to bring wedges n putter to the green

unlike my good fren, coastguy, dun even need to bring putter.... always hole out want

once u play with him, u will know the vast difference in skill between me n him....


btw, wihtout your crutch par putt, we wouldnt have roast meat from bob n kian....
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:36 am

slinger wrote:
Kookk wrote:
slinger wrote:
efoong wrote:
I planned to play more serious golf as really hate to become 100plus ...although able to play 90+ sometimes but is quite inconsistence...

any pro here can recommend me on how to schedule my training...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

hopefully can achieve my own target with a better training plan...

thanks for anyone who give meaningful comment thanks...


i suggest u keep your score card after every round.....

analyse your score....

why u blow certain holes.....


say in the score box where u write your score.....

upper right hand corner.... tick if u drive well, cross if u din

lower right hand corner...... how many putts u need

left hand corner for other remarks.... like GIR, OB water etc

end of round, look at your score, find how many ticks or cross or whatever that shows why u play that score....

from there u will know what u need to do.... hopefully

Just find you can already la. No need so troublesome.




u need to call me for game soon...... before u kenna buaya by seiko n gang

Ok. Ok. Soon. These few weekends a little busy to play, elbow hurting and my swing also damn messy.
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:44 am

Nov lor....

anyway, Oct busy for me too.....

u went to the doc at upper boon keng??
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:53 am

slinger wrote:
Nov lor....

anyway, Oct busy for me too.....

u went to the doc at upper boon keng??

Did not see any doc. Hoping it will recover with one rest.

What will the doc do? Just give some external cream to apply?
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:56 am

Kookk wrote:
slinger wrote:
Nov lor....

anyway, Oct busy for me too.....

u went to the doc at upper boon keng??

Did not see any doc. Hoping it will recover with one rest.

What will the doc do? Just give some external cream to apply?

actually he is chiro-TCM shiseh....

he fix up the pain in my elbow in 2 weeks...
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:00 am

Just to share...

efoong wrote:

...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

You are absolutely right. There's no other way to break 90 and below. We are fighting against statistics, and the more improvements we seek, the higher the odds are stacked against us. So a planned approach is paramount.

Some statistics...

Our score is a calculation of our error rates. Lets define shooting 72 as meaning making zero errors.

If we make 1 bad swing for every 4 swings, we can shoot between 81 to 90, depending on OB rate, assuming no 2-putt.

So, if we practice putting until we eliminate 3-putts and more, then all we need to do to break 90 is to make 3 good swings out of every 4 swings. That doesn't sound too hard, right?


Here's how. (Some simple math follows, skip if necessary.)
========================================
Removing putts out of the equation, 2 putts for 18 holes = 36, therefore 72 - 36 = 36, there are 36 strokes to be made.

Shooting par on a typical course is 18 driver/woods shots and 18 irons shots.

For longer courses, some par 3 may require wood to reach, so it may even be 20 driver/wood and 16 irons shots.

The above gives us an idea of where we should concentrate our practice.

Looking at the strokes, tee shot and approach shot, what are our error rates?

If the error rate is 25%, then we make an error every 4 strokes, then when we swing 36 times, we make 9 errors.

If the none of the errors are OB, then it's 9 over par. We're shooting 81.

If the rate of OB is 50%, then it's 13 or 14 over par. We're shooting 85 or 86.

If the rate of OB is 100%, then it's 18 over par. We're shooting 90.

The critical part is putting. We must be able to make no more than 2 putts. This requires a lot of practice to get the feel.

Another critical element is getting out of greenside bunkers. We must be able to get out close enough for a 2-putt to avoid losing more strokes. You guessed it, lots of time in bunkers to get the confidence, feel and technique.

===========================================

I played a round where despite shooting 7 on a par 3, still carded an 87. Looking back, here's what I did.

After missing the fairway, I just chose to make the safest punch back to the fairway for an easy approach. No heroics in trying to rescue and hit the green from the rough. This required discipline because sometime we just want to be heros.

For putting, just aimed to lag for a gimme, speed having more priority than line.

efoong wrote:

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

Absolutely right again. Hitting balls without an objective is exercise, not practice.

As shown above, driver/wood are equally important as irons. So I split my focus on irons and woods/drivers equally.

Here's what I focus on.

Short irons and wedges - aim to hit the flag. Also check for distance.

Mid irons - aim to hit very near the flag, no more than 1-2 flag length's dispersion.

Long irons - aim to hit within the vicinity of the flag, for a 2-putt distance, say 3-4 flag lengths dispersion.

Drivers and woods - I pick two fence posts at the end of the fairway and hit between them. That's my fairway width.

The goal is just 3 good shots for every 4.

Also, I remind myself to cycle among the clubs instead of hitting the same club continuously. Otherwise I will fool myself thinking I mastered the club after hitting it lots of times. On the course obviously we only get 1 chance per shot.

To sum up.

Short game practice
1. putting - 2-putt from anywhere within 20-feet (about 7 steps)
2. chipping - get it close, within 5 feet, from any kind of lie around the green
3. pitching - get it to within 20-feet from 30 meters or less
4. bunker - get it out to within 20-feet

Irons and wood/drivers - equal focus, target oriented. 3 good swings for every 4 swings.

Just sharing. Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:26 am

slinger wrote:
Kookk wrote:
slinger wrote:
Nov lor....

anyway, Oct busy for me too.....

u went to the doc at upper boon keng??

Did not see any doc. Hoping it will recover with one rest.

What will the doc do? Just give some external cream to apply?

actually he is chiro-TCM shiseh....

he fix up the pain in my elbow in 2 weeks...

I've actually never been to a TCM before. Hee... Hee...

If my elbow still hurts after some rest, i probably need to see one.
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:54 am

Lee36328 wrote:
Just to share...

efoong wrote:

...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

You are absolutely right. There's no other way to break 90 and below. We are fighting against statistics, and the more improvements we seek, the higher the odds are stacked against us. So a planned approach is paramount.

Some statistics...

Our score is a calculation of our error rates. Lets define shooting 72 as meaning making zero errors.

If we make 1 bad swing for every 4 swings, we can shoot between 81 to 90, depending on OB rate, assuming no 2-putt.

So, if we practice putting until we eliminate 3-putts and more, then all we need to do to break 90 is to make 3 good swings out of every 4 swings. That doesn't sound too hard, right?


Here's how. (Some simple math follows, skip if necessary.)
========================================
Removing putts out of the equation, 2 putts for 18 holes = 36, therefore 72 - 36 = 36, there are 36 strokes to be made.

Shooting par on a typical course is 18 driver/woods shots and 18 irons shots.

For longer courses, some par 3 may require wood to reach, so it may even be 20 driver/wood and 16 irons shots.

The above gives us an idea of where we should concentrate our practice.

Looking at the strokes, tee shot and approach shot, what are our error rates?

If the error rate is 25%, then we make an error every 4 strokes, then when we swing 36 times, we make 9 errors.

If the none of the errors are OB, then it's 9 over par. We're shooting 81.

If the rate of OB is 50%, then it's 13 or 14 over par. We're shooting 85 or 86.

If the rate of OB is 100%, then it's 18 over par. We're shooting 90.

The critical part is putting. We must be able to make no more than 2 putts. This requires a lot of practice to get the feel.

Another critical element is getting out of greenside bunkers. We must be able to get out close enough for a 2-putt to avoid losing more strokes. You guessed it, lots of time in bunkers to get the confidence, feel and technique.

===========================================

I played a round where despite shooting 7 on a par 3, still carded an 87. Looking back, here's what I did.

After missing the fairway, I just chose to make the safest punch back to the fairway for an easy approach. No heroics in trying to rescue and hit the green from the rough. This required discipline because sometime we just want to be heros.

For putting, just aimed to lag for a gimme, speed having more priority than line.

efoong wrote:

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

Absolutely right again. Hitting balls without an objective is exercise, not practice.

As shown above, driver/wood are equally important as irons. So I split my focus on irons and woods/drivers equally.

Here's what I focus on.

Short irons and wedges - aim to hit the flag. Also check for distance.

Mid irons - aim to hit very near the flag, no more than 1-2 flag length's dispersion.

Long irons - aim to hit within the vicinity of the flag, for a 2-putt distance, say 3-4 flag lengths dispersion.

Drivers and woods - I pick two fence posts at the end of the fairway and hit between them. That's my fairway width.

The goal is just 3 good shots for every 4.

Also, I remind myself to cycle among the clubs instead of hitting the same club continuously. Otherwise I will fool myself thinking I mastered the club after hitting it lots of times. On the course obviously we only get 1 chance per shot.

To sum up.

Short game practice
1. putting - 2-putt from anywhere within 20-feet (about 7 steps)
2. chipping - get it close, within 5 feet, from any kind of lie around the green
3. pitching - get it to within 20-feet from 30 meters or less
4. bunker - get it out to within 20-feet

Irons and wood/drivers - equal focus, target oriented. 3 good swings for every 4 swings.

Just sharing. Cheers.

thanks for the idea of training...will get the idea once i started...
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:05 pm

if u realise that u bogey every hole.... u are only 18 over

why not u try for bogey instead of trying for par....

when u go for bogey, your course management will be every different....

u will avoid most bunkers, fairway n greenside...




say 340m Par 4 with bunker at 200-210m...

why not u hit a 5i or hybrid to 160-180m, the fattest part of the fairway....

follow by a 8i before the greenside bunkers, again lots of fairway to land....

then chip from 20-30m out to the green n go for 2 putt....


since u are oreadi on the course, enjoy the experience rather be frustrated by it....

finding your golf ball on the fairway is way better than looking for it in the woods...

built your confidence, groove your swing, better scores will follow....
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:07 pm

efoong wrote:
Lee36328 wrote:
Just to share...

efoong wrote:

...and is it a must to analyse our game and summarize what should improve and plan accordingly to our weakness???

You are absolutely right. There's no other way to break 90 and below. We are fighting against statistics, and the more improvements we seek, the higher the odds are stacked against us. So a planned approach is paramount.

Some statistics...

Our score is a calculation of our error rates. Lets define shooting 72 as meaning making zero errors.

If we make 1 bad swing for every 4 swings, we can shoot between 81 to 90, depending on OB rate, assuming no 2-putt.

So, if we practice putting until we eliminate 3-putts and more, then all we need to do to break 90 is to make 3 good swings out of every 4 swings. That doesn't sound too hard, right?


Here's how. (Some simple math follows, skip if necessary.)
========================================
Removing putts out of the equation, 2 putts for 18 holes = 36, therefore 72 - 36 = 36, there are 36 strokes to be made.

Shooting par on a typical course is 18 driver/woods shots and 18 irons shots.

For longer courses, some par 3 may require wood to reach, so it may even be 20 driver/wood and 16 irons shots.

The above gives us an idea of where we should concentrate our practice.

Looking at the strokes, tee shot and approach shot, what are our error rates?

If the error rate is 25%, then we make an error every 4 strokes, then when we swing 36 times, we make 9 errors.

If the none of the errors are OB, then it's 9 over par. We're shooting 81.

If the rate of OB is 50%, then it's 13 or 14 over par. We're shooting 85 or 86.

If the rate of OB is 100%, then it's 18 over par. We're shooting 90.

The critical part is putting. We must be able to make no more than 2 putts. This requires a lot of practice to get the feel.

Another critical element is getting out of greenside bunkers. We must be able to get out close enough for a 2-putt to avoid losing more strokes. You guessed it, lots of time in bunkers to get the confidence, feel and technique.

===========================================

I played a round where despite shooting 7 on a par 3, still carded an 87. Looking back, here's what I did.

After missing the fairway, I just chose to make the safest punch back to the fairway for an easy approach. No heroics in trying to rescue and hit the green from the rough. This required discipline because sometime we just want to be heros.

For putting, just aimed to lag for a gimme, speed having more priority than line.

efoong wrote:

i found go driving range if just whacking the ball is quite wasting of energy and time...

Absolutely right again. Hitting balls without an objective is exercise, not practice.

As shown above, driver/wood are equally important as irons. So I split my focus on irons and woods/drivers equally.

Here's what I focus on.

Short irons and wedges - aim to hit the flag. Also check for distance.

Mid irons - aim to hit very near the flag, no more than 1-2 flag length's dispersion.

Long irons - aim to hit within the vicinity of the flag, for a 2-putt distance, say 3-4 flag lengths dispersion.

Drivers and woods - I pick two fence posts at the end of the fairway and hit between them. That's my fairway width.

The goal is just 3 good shots for every 4.

Also, I remind myself to cycle among the clubs instead of hitting the same club continuously. Otherwise I will fool myself thinking I mastered the club after hitting it lots of times. On the course obviously we only get 1 chance per shot.

To sum up.

Short game practice
1. putting - 2-putt from anywhere within 20-feet (about 7 steps)
2. chipping - get it close, within 5 feet, from any kind of lie around the green
3. pitching - get it to within 20-feet from 30 meters or less
4. bunker - get it out to within 20-feet

Irons and wood/drivers - equal focus, target oriented. 3 good swings for every 4 swings.

Just sharing. Cheers.

thanks for the idea of training...will get the idea once i started...

You're very welcome bro.
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PostSubject: Re: How to schedule my golf training to lower score???   Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:01 pm

Here is mine...which I believe is one of the weirdest around (I think):

#1 If I do go range.

#2 If I do ..do #1, I only bring my #7 wedge and below....but restricted to max...3 wedges only.

#3 If I do do #1 and #2...I practise getting the distance which 70% or greater which is my comfort distance.

#4 If I do do #1, #2, #3.....I practise the right direction....and distance

As to why I don practise driver.....coz my drive is so short, most likely it will still be on fairway coz the course designer will not have tot someone can be that short.
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