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PostSubject: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:59 am

Just to check, are all blades forged ? anyone come across any blades that ain't forged?


Casting technology of club head came after 1990s(please correct me if I am wrong) Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:19 pm

Yes, I believe you can find cast blades.
I think the Cleveland CG tours are cast; but not 100% sure.

Many wedges are "blades" and also cast albino
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:50 pm

good point Ssquirrel...

how to tell if the blade club head is cast or forged then? anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:55 pm

Forged irons have a solid construction and are most often have blade club heads. Beginner golfers might be better served by using cast irons which are cavity backed. These irons are best for those with high and mid level handicaps. A beginner could even benefit from a forged cavity backed iron which has a larger sweet spot than a blade iron. These irons offer more forgiveness even if the ball is not perfectly hit off the club head.

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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:58 pm

thanks banglah123 .....ermm I was referring to the iron properties differences etc density tensile strength
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:16 pm

I have to admit...I am a bimbo in these.....even now ..I really donno the diff between MB, CB........all i know is the look of blade....of which I don know how to use...except its a putter
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:16 pm

Joshua wrote:
Just to check, are all blades forged ? anyone come across any blades that ain't forged?


Casting technology of club head came after 1990s(please correct me if I am wrong) Smile

Hey Bro,

Have you seen the latest Taylormade MC TP iron?
I believed they are muscleback in Cavity Back
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:33 pm




Casting technology of club head came after 1990s(please correct me if I am wrong) Smile[/quote]

if i am not mistaken, I think it was Ping who first came up with Cavity Back irons, 17-4 i think
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:52 pm

HyBriD wrote:
Joshua wrote:
Just to check, are all blades forged ? anyone come across any blades that ain't forged?


Casting technology of club head came after 1990s(please correct me if I am wrong) Smile

Hey Bro,

Have you seen the latest Taylormade MC TP iron?
I believed they are muscleback in Cavity Back


yah saw the Taylormade Muscle Cavity TP iron.. these are half cavity(hybrid of CB and MB), the Taylormade MB TP irons with forged finish are then the musclebacks.

I was trying to learn from you guys how to tell the difference btw a forged muscleback vs a cast muscleback from the look of it.


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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:55 pm

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HyBriD wrote:
Joshua wrote:
Just to check, are all blades forged ? anyone come across any blades that ain't forged?


Casting technology of club head came after 1990s(please correct me if I am wrong) Smile

Hey Bro,

Have you seen the latest Taylormade MC TP iron?
I believed they are muscleback in Cavity Back


yah saw the Taylormade Muscle Cavity TP iron.. these are half cavity(hybrid of CB and MB), the Taylormade MB TP irons with forged finish are then the musclebacks.

I was trying to learn from you guys how to tell the difference btw a forged muscleback vs a cast muscleback from the look of it.




mayb forged irons have the word "forged" etched on the clubheads.....
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:57 pm




this is through sound... anyway thru the looks of it?
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:00 pm




Think all the TP are forged right? bro hybrid
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:12 pm

titleist bob vokey wedges casted or forged from carbon steel?
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:25 pm

saw this online golfshaftpro website

Question
Is there a way to tell if a golf club is forged or cast by looking at it?

Answer by Chuck P/Earl of Sandwitch/Jason G
The forged clubs usually have the word forged stamped on it somewhere. Blades are almost all forged and cavity backs are cast

Because of the forging process softer metal is used to preserve the dies. If the club is not stamped forged then look at the number of nicks and dents on the perimeter of the club. Forged irons will show bag where. The casting process allows for use of harder steels and not dent as easily.

The majority of the time it will say if the club is forged. Though some were forged, but they did not say indicate it.
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:27 pm

i was right all along..... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:31 pm

slinger wrote:
i was right all along..... Very Happy

Yeah spot on Bro Slinger...... cheers cheers cheers


But then why didnt some forged clubs etched on the word forged on it? especially the older ones... no budget back then or issit widely understood by the market that blades are forged?
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:34 pm

those older ones..... before my time, so i dun know the answer

u have those old irons set meh???

whats your point in this thread??
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:37 pm

to be able to tell the differences between forged and cast irons purely by looking at it loh
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:39 pm

Hahaha, yes you were Slinger Very Happy

Putting the word "forged" on the iron head carries some legal obligation I think. It says something about the quality of the head and is not used lightly. Some cavity has "forged" face, so they need to be specific that it is "face forged".

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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:39 pm

so its either by the dinks and dents on the perimeter of the club i guess Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:40 pm

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Hahaha, yes you were Very Happy

Putting the word "forged" on the iron head carries some legal obligation I think. It says something about the quality of the head and is not used lightly. Some cavity has "forged" face, so they need to be specific that it is "face forged".

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ohhh new insights there samT .. I learnt something new today Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:42 pm

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to be able to tell the differences between forged and cast irons purely by looking at it loh


just look for the word forged on the irons......

dinks n dents are not good indicators....

ppl like me use headcovers for my irons..... dun have any dinks n dents

yes, i am anal about the cond of my clubs....
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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:47 pm

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:50 pm

I was reading this article

Forged Irons from Japan vs US or China – The Facts

US forged iron heads used to rule over Japanese forged iron heads till 90s? In the year 1994 China came into the picture

http://wishongolf.com/forged-irons-from-japan-vs-us-or-china-the-facts/


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PostSubject: Re: Musclebacks aka Blades   Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:41 pm

Excellent article you quoted there Joshua!

Despite having tried Miura, Endo, Epon, Taylormade, Titleist and many other Japanese forged irons, I still preferred my good old USA forged irons.

I am very fortunate to have 2 sets of irons forged by Cornell of Chicago and 1 set by Hoffman of Memphis. Still playing with them despite their "age". Very Happy
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