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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:57 am

Read about it but till this day, i still have no heart to watch the video.

I may be stereotyping....But i am not surprised this happens in China. They do not give a sh&t about one another........Been there a few times, and everytime i am time, i get less and less impressed with them.
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:59 am

I didn't see any article which said that the girl died. Whichever the case, even if she survives, this experience will traumatize her for a long while.

Nientsu, I saw the video - at least enough of it to know that there are things out there (they don't deserve to be called people) who should be hung, drawn and quartered.

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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:05 am

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Well I guessed the behavior of the passer bys could be due to a recent case whereby a man stepped up to help an injured old lady and in the end he was charged and fined by the authorities blaming him for the injuries on the lady. The old lady was too old to remember how she got injured. This kind of thing puts off a lot of people. Not to say I condoned such behavior on this little girl incident. Also another part of the law in China is that if you injured somebody, you will be responsible for the injured person for life and plus heavy fine. But for causing death to someone like automobile accident, your penalty is much much cheaper. So when this drivers hit somebody, they usually will "go" back and make sure the victim is dead. If not, they will take another hit to make sure. Thats life in China. Too cheap. Sad

This was what I was trying to repeat. Here is a more accurate version which made the mentality of people of China what it is now.

http://www.tokobakso.com/
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:16 am

Sometimes, I think God should just wipe us all out and start over.

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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:27 am

Technospaz wrote:
Sometimes, I think God should just wipe us all out and start over.

And let history repeats itself again? Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:54 am

This is another older incident in China

Yao Jiaxin, a 21-year-old student at the Xi'an Conservatory of Music in Xi'an, capital of Shaanxi province, knocked down cyclist Zhang Miao while driving his Chevrolet Cruze at around 11 pm on Oct 20, when he was rushing to meet his girlfriend.

When he saw Zhang staring at his number plate, Yao is alleged to have taken out a knife and stabbed Zhang eight times until she was dead.

In a hurry to flee the scene, Yao allegedly injured two other passers-by, a man and a woman, according to police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZfOlXGJx4&feature=player_embedded
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:52 am

She's passed away.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_725752.html

Take a moment out of your busy day today to reflect on this. Make a conscious effort to do better and give more. Don't let her pain and death be in vain.

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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:55 am

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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:02 pm

Sad poor girl. May her soul rest in peace.

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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:06 pm

can't say a word. someone if everything went back the way it was i wish she can recover, but if not, I'm not sure what she would prefer.

If you believe in God, then you can think of it as a case where Gods intervene and decided that she will be better off with Him after her 2 years outing in this world. So she is in safe loving hands now.

There are a lot of quesiton I have actually and one of them that keep popping is What was the parent thinking of leaving a 2 year old on the road side by herself ?

Another failure of humanity.. sigh.
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:14 pm

It'll take a lot more than a death of a 2 year old, condoned by those who didn't give a shit as they walked past her, to rattle this nation. Bitter soul searching my ass! They're too busy squeezing the oil from left-overs in restaurants to re-sell for profit. What a nation. Serious epic fail.
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:58 pm

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can't say a word. someone if everything went back the way it was i wish she can recover, but if not, I'm not sure what she would prefer.

If you believe in God, then you can think of it as a case where Gods intervene and decided that she will be better off with Him after her 2 years outing in this world. So she is in safe loving hands now.

There are a lot of quesiton I have actually and one of them that keep popping is What was the parent thinking of leaving a 2 year old on the road side by herself ?

Another failure of humanity.. sigh.

Bro, from another article, it was reported that the parents were both busy attending to customers and the elder son who is 5 years old took her out to play and thats when she walk away into hell.
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:40 pm

China Daily

How do society protect the Good Samaritans?

Story 1

After falling in a downtown street and lying on the cold pavement, face down, for half an hour, during which no passers-by moved to help him, an 83-year-old man died. Hearing this story, what would you call this society? Cold-hearted?

In fact, the pedestrians in the southern China city of Fuzhou wanted to help when they found the old man lying on the ground last Wednesday. Two women tried to help the old man up. But one of the onlookers said: "Better not touch him. It will be hard for you to put it clearly later on."

The two women hesitated and finally stood up. Using their cell phone, they called the police and first-aid center. But by the time the ambulance arrived, the old man had died.


Story 2

The case is not exceptional. A similar tragedy happened just 13 days earlier, in Shenzhen, Guangdong province. A 78-year-old man was found on the rain-soaked ground, face down in a residential compound, none of the onlookers took any action except to call the police. Despite the efforts of first-aid personnel to save his life, the man died. Had anybody turned him over and lifted his head up, the old man wouldn't have died. When questioned by the man's son, one of the community's guards said: "We dared not touch the old man because we would not be able to put it clearly should anything untoward occur."

The phrase "hard to put it clearly" may sound odd to foreigners, but everybody in China nowadays knows its meaning. When you try to help someone who falls to the ground injured or in coma, that person may allege that you caused the fall. You will then find it difficult to clear yourself of suspicion if the case is taken to court.


Story 3

There was a precedent for this. On Nov 20, 2006, an old woman fell to the ground and broke her leg after jostling at a bus stop in Nanjing, an eastern China city. A young man, Peng Yu, helped her up and escorted her to hospital. Later the woman and her family dragged the man to court, which ruled that the young man should pay 40 percent of the medical costs. The court said the decision was reached by reasoning. The verdict said that "according to common sense", it was highly possible that the defendant had bumped into the old woman, given that he was the first person to get off the bus when the old woman was pushed down in front of the bus door and, "according to what one would normally do in this case", Peng would have left soon after sending the woman to the hospital instead of staying there for the surgical check. "His behavior obviously went against common sense."

This "reasoning" horrified, and angered, the whole nation. From then on, the number of pedestrians helping old people in need has dramatically decreased. Using search engines online, one can get dozens of stories of old people left lying on the ground without any passers-by giving a helping hand. Netizens have even coined a new phrase for it - "sequel of the Peng Yu case".


Story 4

In the wake of this case old people also learned the way to get help was to shout a disclaimer for the would-be helpers. On Feb 22, 2009, a 75-year-old man fell to the ground when disembarking from a bus, also in Nanjing. Once again, nobody dared to touch him. In desperation, the old man shouted: "It is not anybody's fault. I fell by myself." At the words, everybody nearby came with all kinds of help.

In fact, most people feel compassion for the weak. But the frequent occurrence of extortion and blackmail after a passer-by has offered help has deterred people from acting as a Good Samaritan. Something has to be done to change the situation.


Story 5

We may learn from the US experience.

In a 2004 traffic crash, a woman pulled a coworker from a car fearing a possible explosion. The injured person later filed a lawsuit against the rescuer, claiming that the improper way she was pulled from the car caused her paralysis. The court ruled in favor of the plaintiff. The ruling got "condemned from coast to coast" for its obvious unfairness. In June 2009, the California legislature passed the Good Samaritan Protection Act, which immunizes Good Samaritans from liability when they assist others at the scene of an emergency. The plaintiff withdrew the suit.



We Chinese also need such a law so that "Good Samaritans should never again have to second-guess the consequences of helping", as said by one California senator after the law was passed.

The author is assistant editor-in-chief of China Daily. E-mail: liushinan@ chinadaily.com.cn


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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:47 pm

Bro can be a good samaritan and post in normal color? I a bit color blind. Can't read some colors and some have to take too much effort without straining my eyes. Think will do a lot of us forerunners a big favor if posted in normal colors. Thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:46 pm

dmateo wrote:

There are a lot of quesiton I have actually and one of them that keep popping is What was the parent thinking of leaving a 2 year old on the road side by herself ?

Another failure of humanity.. sigh.


different times, different circumstances.....

when i was growing up in chinatown, my parents work everyday to put food on the table for my brothers n sister....

most times, me n my brothers have to fend for ourselves....

then my parents dun have much options....

now, we have options.... we have helpers, we have childcare, we have inlaws

lets not to be harsh on the girl parents....
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PostSubject: Re: what is WRONG with people!!!!   Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:24 pm

sad story......
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