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PostSubject: Betting terminology   Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:31 pm

Hi all,

I keep reading with interest you guys goings strokes etc.. Maybe you guys can share with us newbies on what it means for a 1-1, 2-2 or 9-9? Does both numbers have to be the same? And how does that translate to monetary terms?

Also is giving or receiving strokes the most common ways of betting in golf here in SG? What are the other ways that arennormally played? Need to familiarize if not will suffer when play with new flight mates and kana makan big time.
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:49 am

Very simply, a round of golf is broken into 2-nines. A high hcp player, say 24 hcp is playing with a mid hcp player, say 16, then in theory, the mid hcp player can offer to give the high hcp player 4-4. That means for the 4 indexed holes in front nine, the high hcp player gets 1 extra stroke, similarly for the 4 indexed hole is back nine.

Very often, we haggle over the strokes to give / be given. Common excuses for not giving strokes are 'last week low score is my one-off, I just changed my swing, my new shaft not run in yet, blah blah...'

If you still don't understand, just play one round with GRians and pay 'school fees'
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:29 am

Strokes are actually based on usga rules of golf, the handicap systems is created, amongst other reasons, to facilitate competition between players with different skill level. So a 20 hcap can play along a 10hcap on a strokeplay competition. The 20 hcap gets strokes from the 10hcap in matchplay.

Were supposed to based it on course handicap, but it is not practiced here. Course handicap is influenced by the difficulty of the course, or course rating/slope rating. Because higher handicap golfers is affected more by a difficult course than better players do. Hence the slope.

Strokes are given on the lower index holes (more difficult holes). 1-1 means 1 stroke given on the Front nine and 1 Stroke on back nine. If we use the course handicap table, it is possible for more than one strokes given on a very difficult hole. But maybe for simplicity, i seldom see it being practiced.

Betting to me is the stakes of match. Are you playing for $50, makan, a massage or just for bragging rights? There are many game formats like snakes, vegas, olympic, sixes etc. Those formats may negate the use of stroking. Strokes are generally used in cut throat or individual/team matchplay and strokeplay.

Do you bet for fun/laughs, for the thrill/pressure or for the money? The difference between recreational golfers, serious golfers and buayas/buayees hustlers Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:00 pm

Is there a thread lying around explaining the different styles of betting? e.g vegas, sixes etc etc. My group of friends and I are starting to get interested in playing with $$, not sure which style would be most appropriate for us...
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:05 pm

catdforever wrote:
Is there a thread lying around explaining the different styles of betting? e.g vegas, sixes etc etc. My group of friends and I are starting to get interested in playing with $$, not sure which style would be most appropriate for us...

I suggest u join the betting flts of Golfool2009, slinger, Kian, 4Dtoto,Zx, etc.. then you will definitely proposed the appropriate betting system... Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:57 pm

klt8144 wrote:
catdforever wrote:
Is there a thread lying around explaining the different styles of betting? e.g vegas, sixes etc etc. My group of friends and I are starting to get interested in playing with $$, not sure which style would be most appropriate for us...

I suggest u join the betting flts of Golfool2009, slinger, Kian, 4Dtoto,Zx, etc.. then you will definitely proposed the appropriate betting system... Laughing Laughing


actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:01 pm

slinger wrote:
klt8144 wrote:
catdforever wrote:
Is there a thread lying around explaining the different styles of betting? e.g vegas, sixes etc etc. My group of friends and I are starting to get interested in playing with $$, not sure which style would be most appropriate for us...

I suggest u join the betting flts of Golfool2009, slinger, Kian, 4Dtoto,Zx, etc.. then you will definitely proposed the appropriate betting system... Laughing Laughing


actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT

Hahaha....the average roller coaster at Universal Studios, Disney World, etc is only about 1.5 - 2.5 minutes....... a game with the rest of these bandits is 4.5 hours of non-stop heart pounding excitement.....i've been a victim many times already and still buy a ticket to queue up time after time.......
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:03 pm

golfool2009 wrote:
slinger wrote:
klt8144 wrote:
catdforever wrote:
Is there a thread lying around explaining the different styles of betting? e.g vegas, sixes etc etc. My group of friends and I are starting to get interested in playing with $$, not sure which style would be most appropriate for us...

I suggest u join the betting flts of Golfool2009, slinger, Kian, 4Dtoto,Zx, etc.. then you will definitely proposed the appropriate betting system... Laughing Laughing


actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT

Hahaha....the average roller coaster at Universal Studios, Disney World, etc is only about 1.5 - 2.5 minutes....... a game with the rest of these bandits is 4.5 hours of non-stop heart pounding excitement.....i've been a victim many times already and still buy a ticket to queue up time after time.......

hmmm.. either u got DEEP pockets.. or PWC another record profits year!
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:06 pm

at the start, keep it simple. Play skins. all agree on the amount for the hole before the start of the game. Example say $5 per hole. 4 in the flight, winner of the hole pockets $15.

This assuming all are of smilar standard. WHen you get more competent in betting or "Excitment" you can start to give / take strokes per hole, sandy par, up & down etc etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:09 pm

wah namesake, it's not just about the money....slinger has soft hands and soft touch......plus when he uses his cabretta leather gloves.....*shudder*.....it's well worth the price of admission (rimshot please!!!!)....hahaha...
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:24 pm

golfool2009 wrote:
wah namesake, it's not just about the money....slinger has soft hands and soft touch......plus when he uses his cabretta leather gloves.....*shudder*.....it's well worth the price of admission (rimshot please!!!!)....hahaha...


i guess u couldnt forget/forgive for that 80 pointers on the par3......

live n let live lah....

u oreadi 1 up on me liao.....
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:32 pm

slinger wrote:
golfool2009 wrote:
wah namesake, it's not just about the money....slinger has soft hands and soft touch......plus when he uses his cabretta leather gloves.....*shudder*.....it's well worth the price of admission (rimshot please!!!!)....hahaha...


i guess u couldnt forget/forgive for that 80 pointers on the par3......

live n let live lah....

u oreadi 1 up on me liao.....

I woke up this morning ,change into my golf gear hoping that yesterday was a dream until my wife ask me..."u playing golf today again?"
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:00 pm

[quote="slinger

actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT[/quote]

bro... cannot take excitement anymore.. age catching up.. down with weaker heart !!
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:34 pm

klt8144 wrote:
[quote="slinger

actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT

bro... cannot take excitement anymore.. age catching up.. down with weaker heart !! [/quote]

What slinger means is he will help u in strengthening your heart....
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:05 pm

drawbias wrote:
klt8144 wrote:
[quote="slinger

actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT

bro... cannot take excitement anymore.. age catching up.. down with weaker heart !!

What slinger means is he will help u in strengthening your heart....[/quote]

i think the feeling can be describe as if you come face to face with a crocodile.
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:03 pm

Maybe start with a simple bet like gross scores less the handicap to be given by the player with the lower handicap. Whoever plays the lowest score after deducting the given handicap wins. The stake can be anything from $5 to $500 or more if you can stomach or afford it. pale From what I understand, some of our golfers here are high stakers. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:10 pm

Its like playing majong... can only understand the full works when you do practical...

Reading the explanation will only make one more confused!!!... What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:13 pm

mika wrote:
Hi all,

I keep reading with interest you guys goings strokes etc.. Maybe you guys can share with us newbies on what it means for a 1-1, 2-2 or 9-9? Does both numbers have to be the same? And how does that translate to monetary terms?

Also is giving or receiving strokes the most common ways of betting in golf here in SG? What are the other ways that arennormally played? Need to familiarize if not will suffer when play with new flight mates and kana makan big time.

For a start, avoid 'heart pounding excitement' play 'sixes'...losers pay lunch...then slowly .....slowly...go for excitement,hahaha...when you think and feel ready--> then jio "slinger"
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:47 pm

From a young and naive creature, you will soon learn the rope of becoming a full fledge crocodile as you gain experience over the years. And many have appeared in social games, tournaments, etc... Be scared, be very scared..... Ha! Ha! Ha!. But that's golf. You will learn to cope with it. You will very soon learn to negotiate on the number of strokes to be given, to receive and to deceive. And it's all in the name of golf for fun, enjoyment and addiction. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:04 pm

klt8144 wrote:
mika wrote:
Hi all,

I keep reading with interest you guys goings strokes etc.. Maybe you guys can share with us newbies on what it means for a 1-1, 2-2 or 9-9? Does both numbers have to be the same? And how does that translate to monetary terms?

Also is giving or receiving strokes the most common ways of betting in golf here in SG? What are the other ways that arennormally played? Need to familiarize if not will suffer when play with new flight mates and kana makan big time.

For a start, avoid 'heart pounding excitement' play 'sixes'...losers pay lunch...then slowly .....slowly...go for excitement,hahaha...when you think and feel ready--> then jio "slinger"


Can pls give a quick explanation of 'slinger'? sounds like the most exciting.... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:08 pm

Agumon wrote:
golfool2009 wrote:
slinger wrote:
klt8144 wrote:
catdforever wrote:
Is there a thread lying around explaining the different styles of betting? e.g vegas, sixes etc etc. My group of friends and I are starting to get interested in playing with $$, not sure which style would be most appropriate for us...

I suggest u join the betting flts of Golfool2009, slinger, Kian, 4Dtoto,Zx, etc.. then you will definitely proposed the appropriate betting system... Laughing Laughing


actually, i propose u shd join the betting flts with KLT 1st.......

we are not known for betting..... we are known for EXCITEMENT

Hahaha....the average roller coaster at Universal Studios, Disney World, etc is only about 1.5 - 2.5 minutes....... a game with the rest of these bandits is 4.5 hours of non-stop heart pounding excitement.....i've been a victim many times already and still buy a ticket to queue up time after time.......

hmmm.. either u got DEEP pockets.. or PWC another record profits year!

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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:31 pm

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Can pls give a quick explanation of 'slinger'? sounds like the most exciting.... Smile

'Slinger' is a most exciting game....it seems like a simple game which at first seems to favour you...you even feel guilty cause it appears that you're taking advantage but what the hell, it's only a small bet....after the first game of 'slinger', you're happy after your win and everyone's having a good time.......then for the next game of 'slinger', the stakes increase a little as the strokes given to you decrease, but it's close and you still win.....everyone's having a ball and laughing at how your opponent (let's call him Andy) lost cause he three-putted from 6 feet on the last hole.....you're wondering how Andy could miss that last putt....

in the next game, the stakes increase, the strokes decrease and you've learned a new word....mind f**king....the smiles are still there, the jokes come fast furious but the problem is so does Andy's birdies..before u know it, you've lost all the money you have in your wallet and need Andy's bank account so that you can transfer him money........but you're still having fun.....you think you can still win and can't wait for the next game with Andy......after all, you only lost by one hole.....

The next game, you learn another new word........KLJ........and that's when you know you have entered the wild and wonderful world of 'slinger'.......
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:47 pm

golfool2009 wrote:
catdforever wrote:


Can pls give a quick explanation of 'slinger'? sounds like the most exciting.... Smile

'Slinger' is a most exciting game....it seems like a simple game which at first seems to favour you...you even feel guilty cause it appears that you're taking advantage but what the hell, it's only a small bet....after the first game of 'slinger', you're happy after your win and everyone's having a good time.......then for the next game of 'slinger', the stakes increase a little as the strokes given to you decrease, but it's close and you still win.....everyone's having a ball and laughing at how your opponent (let's call him Andy) lost cause he three-putted from 6 feet on the last hole.....you're wondering how Andy could miss that last putt....

in the next game, the stakes increase, the strokes decrease and you've learned a new word....mind f**king....the smiles are still there, the jokes come fast furious but the problem is so does Andy's birdies..before u know it, you've lost all the money you have in your wallet and need Andy's bank account so that you can transfer him money........but you're still having fun.....you think you can still win and can't wait for the next game with Andy......after all, you only lost by one hole.....

The next game, you learn another new word........KLJ........and that's when you know you have entered the wild and wonderful world of 'slinger'.......


my $$$ well spent....

thats freaking hilarious....

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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:53 pm

Wah you guys are confusing me and did I see $500?!?! *gulp*

So let me give an example to see if I get it right. For example my handicap is 24 and say pushslice's handicap is 16. So say he give me 4-4. Does that mean 4 of the most difficult holes in the front 9 and 4 on the most diff 4 holes? Meaning if the most diff hole is a par 5 and if I had a bogey and pushslice had a par, we will be even for this hole and basically we will be betting for only 4 holes in the front nine and the rest are friendly? So the maximum is a 9-9? What happens if one usually plays 78 and another who usually play 110, how many strokes should be given?
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PostSubject: Re: Betting terminology   Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:01 pm

mika wrote:
Wah you guys are confusing me and did I see $500?!?! *gulp*

So let me give an example to see if I get it right. For example my handicap is 24 and say pushslice's handicap is 16. So say he give me 4-4. Does that mean 4 of the most difficult holes in the front 9 and 4 on the most diff 4 holes?Yes Meaning if the most diff hole is a par 5 and if I had a bogey and pushslice had a par, we will be even for this hole and basically we will be betting for only 4 holes in the front nine and the rest are friendly? You bet the full 18 holes... just that for those 8 holes, you get the advantage of an extra stroke deducted from your overall score.
So the maximum is a 9-9? 9-9 is already alot...What happens if one usually plays 78 and another who usually play 110, how many strokes should be given?then the one playing 110 should not even consider betting No

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