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PostSubject: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:34 pm

Hi all,

Would like some inputs on the diff of playing irons on firm vs soft ground.
I am curious if the firmness of the ground would affect the compression of the golf ball when using irons causing reduction of distance.
Would we need to club down if playing on soft ground ?

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:31 pm

This is a very chiamp question affraid

Wonder if we contact the ball first, whether a soft and firm ground make any difference? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:34 pm

good question.

i also like to know.

played on sat morning. balls plucks like no body business.

need to control a lot of irons because scared of taking too much divot.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:42 pm

I've realized that with wet ground, I get better shots with my ball placed further back, i.e. closer to my right foot. Don't know if it's cause I'm just an inconsistent golfer (which is quite possible).

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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:47 pm

in my experience, everyone who strikes the Golf ball well will naturally compressed the ball well.

Unless we hit a "Fat Shot"

I think everything depends on the golf ball we used.

Lets say in my country, there are two season's Dry & Rainy days

for dry months, I prefer to used those Tour ball for those Par 3 for better bite
and for those long Par 5, I used those soft & distance ball to gain distance.

for Rainy days, I normally "Over club" and used those Soft 2 core golf ball like

Srixon AD333 / Srixon Soft Feel / Nike PD 2 / or E6

In my experience, if I used those 3 core ball the ball would sometimes submerged inside the wet soak fairway.

I usually bring 6 soft feel balls & 6 3 core ball and alternately play them depending on the length and fairway shape.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:12 pm

Logically, if we strike ball first, then divot, I think there should be no difference. I believe that is how we should hit ideally.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:00 pm

For soft and muddy ground after rain, need to up club as the club head will get caught once it enters the ground and difficult to follow through.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:15 pm

No difference for me, at most half a club shorter. Balls is also more receptive on the greens due to the dampness.

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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:26 pm

sob wrote:
Hi all,

Would like some inputs on the diff of playing irons on firm vs soft ground.
I am curious if the firmness of the ground would affect the compression of the golf ball when using irons causing reduction of distance.
Would we need to club down if playing on soft ground ?

Thanks

When you see the difference your ball land on fairway and buggy track, you will know the answer to your question. The firmer ground will allow your ball to go further, a softer ground will absorb more energy thus reducing your ball distance. So is the bunker will greatly reduce your ball distance.

You will need to up your club when playing on softer ground. You may also need to have a clean sweep and avoid divot totally.

Just my 2c. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:06 am

Hi bros,

Sorri to dig up tis old thread... Jus tat I had a recent experience on last fri game... Realized tat when playin off soggy ground condition I am short by 1/2-1 club length versus normal or damp conditions...

Likely due to my poor golfing skills but the consistency in loss of distance on soggy ground conditions makes me wonder... Embarassed

Any bro able to help?

And temp measure for me is to club longer... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:47 am

Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:24 am

pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:08 pm

robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked

I second to PS quote. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:23 pm

I find no distance difference eh. I take take same swing take the same big fat usual divot and ball still carries same distance. No run only which is great haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:04 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:01 pm

robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
Robert, if your ball is in a divot no relieve, but if your ball slightly plug, u can always marked, cleaned and placed but not nearer to the hole. Of cos it can only be done if your ball on the fairway or first cut.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:09 pm

enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
Robert, if your ball is in a divot no relieve, but if your ball slightly plug, u can always marked, cleaned and placed but not nearer to the hole. Of cos it can only be done if your ball on the fairway or first cut.

Thanks for the info bro enwee...!!!

Seems like mi gonna bring a sponge to the range and practice hittin shots off them....

Else with my 3 legged cat kungfu sure Kena slaughter big time by hkhamateur Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:12 pm

robert33 wrote:
enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
Robert, if your ball is in a divot no relieve, but if your ball slightly plug, u can always marked, cleaned and placed but not nearer to the hole. Of cos it can only be done if your ball on the fairway or first cut.

Thanks for the info bro enwee...!!!

Seems like mi gonna bring a sponge to the range and practice hittin shots off them....

Else with my 3 legged cat kungfu sure Kena slaughter big time by hkhamateur Crying or Very sad
Slaughtered by hkhamateur? ask him for more strokes lor. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:43 pm

enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
Robert, if your ball is in a divot no relieve, but if your ball slightly plug, u can always marked, cleaned and placed but not nearer to the hole. Of cos it can only be done if your ball on the fairway or first cut.

Thanks for the info bro enwee...!!!

Seems like mi gonna bring a sponge to the range and practice hittin shots off them....

Else with my 3 legged cat kungfu sure Kena slaughter big time by hkhamateur Crying or Very sad
Slaughtered by hkhamateur? ask him for more strokes lor. Very Happy


a war between hkhamateur and Robert ???? thot Robert just had some Birdie in a game recently ?
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:50 pm

ahnah wrote:
enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
Robert, if your ball is in a divot no relieve, but if your ball slightly plug, u can always marked, cleaned and placed but not nearer to the hole. Of cos it can only be done if your ball on the fairway or first cut.

Thanks for the info bro enwee...!!!

Seems like mi gonna bring a sponge to the range and practice hittin shots off them....

Else with my 3 legged cat kungfu sure Kena slaughter big time by hkhamateur Crying or Very sad
Slaughtered by hkhamateur? ask him for more strokes lor. Very Happy


a war between hkhamateur and Robert ???? thot Robert just had some Birdie in a game recently ?
Not war lah, brotherly or friendly game.
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:51 pm

Still a war game ..
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:52 pm

ahnah wrote:
Still a war game ..
U wanna join in is it? Peace
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:53 pm

enwee wrote:
ahnah wrote:
Still a war game ..
U wanna join in is it? Peace

my standard is not there...
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:04 pm

ahnah wrote:
enwee wrote:
ahnah wrote:
Still a war game ..
U wanna join in is it? Peace

my standard is not there...
Learn from the best mah
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PostSubject: Re: Compression differences on firm ground and soft ground   Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:04 pm

enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
enwee wrote:
robert33 wrote:
pushslice wrote:
Hi Robert, soggy ground exposes our ball striking...if we don't hit ball first, then turf second, the club will dig more and miss the clubs sweet spot. However, if your club has enough bounce, it may help.

I've seen super slow motion video of impact moment and the ball just took off without hitting ground while the clubs continue to hit the ground thereafter.

On soggy grounds, I kind of stole rss move and just try pivot on my left leg..avoid getting my weight behind. Anything but fat shot really

Seems like gotta hit the ball clean or simply take a club longer in my case...

Btw does the golf ball sits slightly into the ground? Shocked
Robert, if your ball is in a divot no relieve, but if your ball slightly plug, u can always marked, cleaned and placed but not nearer to the hole. Of cos it can only be done if your ball on the fairway or first cut.

Thanks for the info bro enwee...!!!

Seems like mi gonna bring a sponge to the range and practice hittin shots off them....

Else with my 3 legged cat kungfu sure Kena slaughter big time by hkhamateur Crying or Very sad
Slaughtered by hkhamateur? ask him for more strokes lor. Very Happy

Bro enwee, hkhamateur dun give strokes to male golfers.

Sianz ttm..
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