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PostSubject: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:04 pm

I have tried standing away from the ball.
I have tried standing tall.
I have tried hitting from in to out
I have tried almost everything.
But I'm still hitting the the heel.

In fact I have checked with a couple of pro, they say it's not a problem
Any advice.

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:19 pm

Check ur lie angle C.

Might be too flat.

Jus hazarding a guess.

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:22 pm

I have a particular PW that always does that. Went to compare w the rest of mine n found it to be 1+* flatter than the rest.

Can DIY to check. Just buy electrical tape n tape the bottom next time u go to the range. U will then see for urself. Dun need any lieboard...might end up buying something u dun need Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:43 pm

I suspect it is not.
This was a new wedge, the marks on the sole seem OK.
This problem has been with me for quite a while.
Including the longer irons.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:45 pm

Actually you have quite consistent contact, and near perfect contact too!

The sweet spot of your club is almost right smack in the middle of the group of ball marks! Don't change a thing my friend Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:51 pm

r510tp wrote:
Actually you have quite consistent contact, and near perfect contact too!

The sweet spot of your club is almost right smack in the middle of the group of ball marks! Don't change a thing my friend Very Happy

Sometimes it got worst and became a shank.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:57 pm

Hmmm... On days that you shank consistently, if you tend to hit your driver or fairway wood well, then it could be a too flat swing plane.

Just taking a blind guess without seeing your swing! Smile

Very nice pic by the way... Wat club is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:00 am

When I try swing more upright, it got worst.
It's a Cleveland, I just bought it at Isetan sales. S$139 for 2
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:02 am

Maybe u coming too much from the inside. On shots that you get stuck you will block or shank them

Just a guess. See a pro or get videoed and check your angles

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:05 am

Or you could be shifting too much of your body weight between your toes and your heel during the swing?

Post a vid, or see a coach?
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:07 am

Have you tried with your normal set uo or stance but the ball is align nearer to the toe?

By that I mean your feet will also move back by about 1 inch or so.

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:11 am

eiji wrote:
Maybe u coming too much from the inside. On shots that you get stuck you will block or shank them

Just a guess. See a pro or get videoed and check your angles

Will test this out.
Saw 2 pro, they say it's OK.
But for me...it's not OK.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:15 am

r510tp wrote:
Or you could be shifting too much of your body weight between your toes and your heel during the swing?

Post a vid, or see a coach?

This could be a possible reason.
I stay quite and stabilize my knee it does help.
But not always.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:17 am

stickman wrote:
Have you tried with your normal set uo or stance but the ball is align nearer to the toe?

By that I mean your feet will also move back by about 1 inch or so.

Cheers man


Did that, push my club further away with the ball at the toe of club, also cannot.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:26 am

I used to have this same issue.

On GolfWRX, there is something the guys there called 'humping the goat' or early extension. This was where the spine angle is lost as the hips move closer to the ball at impact. It caused me to hit near the heel. Lots of write-up on this if you google the terms.

Now, I sometimes hit off the toe when I over-correct.

May or may not be your issue; can't tell without a video of the swing.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:32 am

Google Humping the goat?
I will get Muar Chee signature.

I think you are right, when I pay attention to my spine, hip and knee it does help.
But on and off.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:00 am

Lee36328 wrote:
I used to have this same issue.

On GolfWRX, there is something the guys there called 'humping the goat' or early extension. This was where the spine angle is lost as the hips move closer to the ball at impact. It caused me to hit near the heel. Lots of write-up on this if you google the terms.

Now, I sometimes hit off the toe when I over-correct.

May or may not be your issue; can't tell without a video of the swing.

Hi Lee, I t think you have pointed me to the right direction.
I wasn't aware I'm humping the goat.

Here are are the good answers
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/404520-drills-to-stop-humping-the-goat/

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:48 am

Thanks Lee36328 and seebayho. Learnt a new term today! Smile

I wonder if this term would still be appropriate if a lady golfer is struggling with this problem...... Embarassed Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:32 am

My take on why your hitting the heel
Of the club face

1. Your set up is wrong
2. Your trying to force your swing
3. Maybe using a wedge is not meant for you try something more forgiving

Hope it helps
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:47 am

Check your initial takeaway sounds like you are taking inside the line too early, then you get stuck on downswing.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:44 am

Bangla123 wrote:

3. Maybe using a wedge is not meant for you try something more forgiving

Hope it helps

You mean putter scratch
Just joking...thank for the help.
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:46 am

shorthitter wrote:
Check your initial takeaway sounds like you are taking inside the line too early, then you get stuck on downswing.

Pro, I do take inside early.
May I know, why is taking inside too early will get stuck on the down swing?
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:14 am

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Lee36328 wrote:
I used to have this same issue.

On GolfWRX, there is something the guys there called 'humping the goat' or early extension. This was where the spine angle is lost as the hips move closer to the ball at impact. It caused me to hit near the heel. Lots of write-up on this if you google the terms.

Now, I sometimes hit off the toe when I over-correct.

May or may not be your issue; can't tell without a video of the swing.

Hi Lee, I t think you have pointed me to the right direction.
I wasn't aware I'm humping the goat.

Here are are the good answers
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/404520-drills-to-stop-humping-the-goat/

Thanks

r510tp wrote:
Thanks Lee36328 and seebayho. Learnt a new term today! Smile

I wonder if this term would still be appropriate if a lady golfer is struggling with this problem...... Embarassed Razz

Most welcome guys.

It's quite common among beginners, and I had a massive, massive case of it when I first started. Quite common among guys, but to answer r510to's question, somehow among the ladies I've been fortunate to assist with, it's not so prevalent, good form is usually easy for them. From what I've come across, seems for ladies, the challenge is more power than form, and for guys, it's the reverse. Hmm... maybe something instinctive in the guys which gave us the natural tendency for this move...? Rolling Eyes Razz

Because the move is such an easy way to generate power albeit in an incorrect way, it gets embedded quite deeply in our swing. So, in order to erase it, we've got to find a replacement that is equally if not more powerful. Else, under pressure, we will subconsciously revert to this move.

Cheers.

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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:27 pm

Here's a good explanation of HTG, or more correctly, early extension, what causes it, and how to rectify it.



And another good thread discussing this in detail, with different points of view from knowledgeable people on why it happens.

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/593509-early-extension/
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PostSubject: Re: Why am I hitting near the heel of the club face?   Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:28 pm

seebayho wrote:
Bangla123 wrote:

3. Maybe using a wedge is not meant for you try something more forgiving

Hope it helps

You mean putter scratch
Just joking...thank for the help.

That's actually a good choice ! Actually what I mean is I get a wedge with more bounce , not those super grinded/ players I wanna flop the ball like tiger kind
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