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PostSubject: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:38 am

Can someone expert to advise whether the below computation is correct (based on actual day handicap)?
i.e. total of 36pts and how to determine the winner if the score tie...

HOLES INDEX SCORE HCP A'WANCE NET SCORE STABLEFORD
1 7 +3 -1 2 0
2 11 +3 -1 2 0
3 13 +3 -1 2 0
4 3 +3 -2 1 1
5 9 -1 -1 -2 4
6 17 +3 -1 2 0
7 1 +1 -2 -1 3
8 15 +1 -1 0 2
9 5 +1 -2 -1 3
10 6 +1 -1 0 2
11 12 +1 -1 0 2
12 2 +1 -2 -1 3
13 16 0 -1 -1 3
14 10 0 -1 -1 3
15 4 0 -2 -2 4
16 14 +1 -1 0 2
17 18 +1 -1 0 2
18 8 +1 -1 0 2
TOTAL 23 23 0 36
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:27 pm

Score tie, usually do a countback until you have a winner

http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?16291-Countback-How-does-it-work

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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:59 pm

36 pts usually will get you close to winning a prize. Though I have seen on countless occasions 40+ pt winners attributing to having an incredible day or are just buayas.
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:53 pm

True Stableford is based on your personal Handicap.

Corporate and Charity day Stableford is calculated on the day and allocates you a handicap for that day, they are a little different.
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:00 pm

Here how Stableford Point was calculated

Score +2 or more = 0 point
+1 = 1 point
Par 0 = 2 points
Birdies -1 = 3 points
eagles -2 = 4 points

Whatever your handicap - you should be looking to score a minimum of 36 points (2 points per hole x 18 holes). If you score 36 points, then you are playing to your handicap. If you score less than 36 you game was below your handicap. If you score more, then you were playing better than your handicap.

Anything around 43 to 45 points or more - means your a bandit...or just improving quickly:)

Examples

18 Handicap Player

If Mr Steve (me) is an 18 Handicap Golfer I will receive one shot per hole.

Par 3 Example

I should take 4 shots to complete a Par 3, as I receives one shot per hole. If I plays +1, I would have played 4 and get 2 points. If I plays 0 (i.e. par), I would have played one under my awarded shots and therefore I would get 3 points. If I plays a -1 (Birdie), I would have played 2 under my awarded shots and would get 4 points.

I understand it is a good system to use if we do not know player actual HCP
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:03 pm

jurongtiger wrote:
36 pts usually will get you close to winning a prize. Though I have seen on countless occasions 40+ pt winners attributing to having an incredible day or are just buayas.

bro

36 pts are usually comprise of how many bird, pars and bogeys?

to score >40, does that require a gross score of under par (under net hdcap)? how many under?
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:47 pm

It's base on the index of the hole compare with your handicapt and the actual par for your handicapt


Net Double - 0 Pts
Net Bogey - 1 Pts
Net Par - 2 Pts
Net Birdie - 3pts
Net Eagle - 4pts


To win a tournament 38 -45pts depending on the division you are .
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:01 pm

firstly, you need to know what system is used to determine your actual day handicap

based on bullrun's method of calculating handicap, everyone will get 36 points
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:24 pm

Interesting system. But can anyone elaborate how to calculate number of strokes for each handicap? If 18hcp gets 1 stroke allowance per hole, then what about a hcp 9?
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:25 pm

joshyo wrote:
Interesting system. But can anyone elaborate how to calculate number of strokes for each handicap? If 18hcp gets 1 stroke allowance per hole, then what about a hcp 9?
I would assume given from index 1-9 hole?
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:26 pm

I guess so. I don't even know how the indexing system works with regard to my hcp even Very Happy I always just look at the P.A.R. per hole.
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:20 pm

The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:22 pm

mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

i want to venture a guess...is she from OCC? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:52 pm

joshyo wrote:
I guess so. I don't even know how the indexing system works with regard to my hcp even Very Happy I always just look at the P.A.R. per hole.

Every scorecard has hole index. 1 being hardest, 18 easiest.

Based on the 9 handicap... index 1-9 you are expected to bogey, thus giving you 2 points per hole, you do better you get more points, index 10-18 you are expected to par. Again giving you 2 points.

Do not confuse True Stableford with the Charity day calculations....
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:53 pm

mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

Yup our course also had a 48 point return..... he got booo'ed.... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:22 pm

pushslice wrote:
mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

i want to venture a guess...is she from OCC? Razz

Not the lady that got a hcp of 23.9? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:30 pm

pushslice wrote:
mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

i want to venture a guess...is she from OCC? Razz

Think she's from JCC or RCC....
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:32 pm

blee wrote:
pushslice wrote:
mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

i want to venture a guess...is she from OCC? Razz

Not the lady that got a hcp of 23.9? Razz

no that lady is smart...she usually go as low as 8-9 under. 11 is overkill liao
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:34 pm

pushslice wrote:
blee wrote:
pushslice wrote:
mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

i want to venture a guess...is she from OCC? Razz

Not the lady that got a hcp of 23.9? Razz

no that lady is smart...she usually go as low as 8-9 under. 11 is overkill liao

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:13 pm

Quote :
pushslice wrote:
blee wrote:
pushslice wrote:
mengteck71 wrote:
The recent islandwide Mercedez Lady champion won with 47points. This she play 11 under. Enough said.

i want to venture a guess...is she from OCC? Razz

Not the lady that got a hcp of 23.9? Razz

no that lady is smart...she usually go as low as 8-9 under. 11 is overkill liao


why would one want to do that? If good and I mean legit good, then its a proud and honorable thing to do .....then say good la.

Still don get it why one is like that.

I too am trying to be a 23.9 hcp
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:51 pm

That's why system 36 stableford is fairer bcos your hc will be determined by your score o that day. So far, it's quite close to one hc.
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:10 pm

bullrun wrote:
Can someone expert to advise whether the below computation is correct (based on actual day handicap)?
i.e. total of 36pts and how to determine the winner if the score tie...

HOLES INDEX SCORE HCP A'WANCE NET SCORE STABLEFORD
1 7 +3 -1 2 0
2 11 +3 -1 2 0
3 13 +3 -1 2 0
4 3 +3 -2 1 1
5 9 -1 -1 -2 4
6 17 +3 -1 2 0
7 1 +1 -2 -1 3
8 15 +1 -1 0 2
9 5 +1 -2 -1 3
10 6 +1 -1 0 2
11 12 +1 -1 0 2
12 2 +1 -2 -1 3
13 16 0 -1 -1 3
14 10 0 -1 -1 3
15 4 0 -2 -2 4
16 14 +1 -1 0 2
17 18 +1 -1 0 2
18 8 +1 -1 0 2
TOTAL 23 23 0 36

Not sure how one arrive at a handicap allowance of 23, unless this was based on some peoria system where the handicap is calculated on some blind holes that is unknown to all players.

Using a system 36 to calculate the actual day handicap with this score,
System 36 points = 17 (2 for par or better, 1 for bogey, 0 for dbl bogey or worse)
Actual day hcap = 36 - 17 = 19
So all hole get 1 stroke, except index 1 get 2 strokes.
Based on net scores, Sys 36 points = 32 (net eagle 4, birdie 3, par 2, bogey 1, dbl bogey or worse 0)

Quick way to check is that there are 5 gross triple bogeys or worse: (36 - 5) = 31
Plus 1 gross birdie (+ 1 point) = 31 + 1 = 32 (check)

If wrong, someone pls correct me.
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PostSubject: Re: Stableford Point Calculation   Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:12 pm

Lenny,

I think you have rightly pointed out the mistake. Thanks.
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