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PostSubject: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:53 pm

Hi everyone

Came across this video by Justin Rose. Thought the technique required seems to be quite possible to execute so I wish to share it here.



Enjoy!
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:21 am

Cheers Jump I HIT IT
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:47 am

applicable to driver as well ?
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:06 pm

Another reference for Draw & Fade shots by Mark Crossfield. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl_mK145d6Y
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 5:27 pm

will definitely try it out!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 6:15 pm

actually quite easy for me to curve the way either direction ...

when I think

DON'T GO RIGHT DON'T GO RIGHT DON'T SLICE ... it will always push slice waaaaayyyyy right

when i think

DON'T GO LEFT DON'T HOOK DON'T PULL IT ... sure pull hook or duck hook waaaaaayyyy left

Unfortunately, it is always in the opposite direction of where I want the ball to go ...

Beer

p.s. I thought I could be smart and think DON'T HIT THE BALL STRAIGHT ... but unfortunately that is when I always succeed in executing what I was thinking of ...

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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 8:41 pm

Derek wrote:
actually quite easy for me to curve the way either direction ...

when I think

DON'T GO RIGHT DON'T GO RIGHT DON'T SLICE ... it will always push slice waaaaayyyyy right

when i think

DON'T GO LEFT DON'T HOOK DON'T PULL IT ... sure pull hook or duck hook waaaaaayyyy left

Unfortunately, it is always in the opposite direction of where I want the ball to go ...

Beer

p.s. I thought I could be smart and think DON'T HIT THE BALL STRAIGHT ... but unfortunately that is when I always succeed in executing what I was thinking of ...

hahaha dude, for me its the same problem. aim left try to fade end up draw the ball into trouble. aim right try to draw end up fade the ball. when i think try to hit the ball straight end up i will chunk it 30m hahaaha
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 8:43 pm

I shape every shot I hit. just never what I intended. BUT there is definitely a shape. shape into ob also is a shape.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 9:14 pm

straight is also a shape
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 9:28 pm

top considered as shape?
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 9:33 pm

for me i think just keep it straight and not over complicate the already difficult game. aaha..
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Tue May 21, 2013 9:39 pm

It's a mental thing I think, at least it was what I had to overcome. I think the key to shaping shots is trusting yourself. You must believe in your own ability and have the right technique first of all, obviously. I find that I used to try to compensate for the "shape" when I hit fades and draws. For ie when I try to hit a draw I feel afraid of the ball not coming back and thus I pull it to compensate.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Wed May 22, 2013 9:54 am

this is my opinion:

if u are hot hitting at least mid 80s or getting 50% GIR..... dun bother

stick with your natural ball flight....

there are more pressing issues u need to deal with than shaping shots....
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Wed May 22, 2013 10:47 am

slinger wrote:
this is my opinion:

if u are hot hitting at least mid 80s or getting 50% GIR..... dun bother

stick with your natural ball flight....

there are more pressing issues u need to deal with than shaping shots....

Ouch! Truth hurts!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Wed May 22, 2013 9:26 pm

Well said! Cheers Jump
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Wed May 22, 2013 10:31 pm

slinger wrote:
this is my opinion:

if u are hot hitting at least mid 80s or getting 50% GIR..... dun bother

stick with your natural ball flight....

there are more pressing issues u need to deal with than shaping shots....

true. but for those trying to learn how to hit the ball better, learning the fundamentals of shaping the ball also contributes to overall technical knowledge.

whether can be executed on the course or should try to shape on the course is different from learning how to shape the ball imo
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:39 am

XD1293 wrote:
great.....

 Bro, if you wanna clock posts, dun be so obvious leh ... The mods here weren't born yesterday ya ... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:42 am

Agree with my slinger shifu. Keep it as simple as possible. How many shots u encountered in a game that requires you to hit either a draw or a fade, I think it is very very few.......I very seldom see my shifu deliberately hitting any of them.....and he is already shooting in the 70s
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:19 am

Unless you are playing a tight tree-lined course, shaping shots unnecessarily only complicates what is already a very difficult game.

Rather, you should be playing with your tendencies if you wanna get your scores down.

For me, my natural shot is a draw and I have a hard time fading. Rather than try and correct the draw and work a fade (which I wasted a year trying), I embraced my natural shape shot and since then, my approach to my game has been simpler and more efficient.

It frees up my mind to think about other facets of my game. Trust me, unless you are a very proficient player ie under a 5 hdcp who wants to take your game to the next level, shaping every shot you are faced with is quite simply an overkill.

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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:39 am

Is a boomerang shot possible? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:41 am

Turbo wrote:
XD1293 wrote:
great.....

 Bro, if you wanna clock posts, dun be so obvious leh ... The mods here weren't born yesterday ya ... Laughing

 hahah.... i was thinking of clocking some posts as well...

but back to the topic..whenever i try shape the shots, turn out to be terrible prob cos i dun play and range regularly to have so much control over my swing..
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:31 am

LeftRightUpDown wrote:
slinger wrote:
this is my opinion:

if u are hot hitting at least mid 80s or getting 50% GIR..... dun bother

stick with your natural ball flight....

there are more pressing issues u need to deal with than shaping shots....

true. but for those trying to learn how to hit the ball better, learning the fundamentals of shaping the ball also contributes to overall technical knowledge.

whether can be executed on the course or should try to shape on the course is different from learning how to shape the ball imo

Yup i totally agree with this. Learning and understanding how to shape the ball on the range will improve your swing overall. if u know how to fade and draw, then u will also know how not to slice or hook.

this does not mean u have to do it on the course. but it certainly develops your swing.

one good way to practice on the range is to take 3 balls - try to hit 1 draw, 1 fade and 1 straight. this is much better than just trying to hit every ball dead straight on the range.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:59 pm

I was told, to do a draw, you need to tilt your head such that the left eye is nearer to the ground.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:04 pm

Everybody has a predominant shot shape, be it a draw or a fade type swing. some just hit it dead straight. I know plenty of single hcps that dun shape shots but suffer when they play tight courses or when they get into trouble. 

Being able to shape shots will be a huge advantage. If you are stuck behind an obstacle. i.e tree or lamp post, etc. It also allows you to manage the course differently. 

It also helps when u play course with lotsa dogleg holes, or have alot of trouble left/right of fw.

I agree with slinger that its not necessary, but def a plus if you can do it, play any course also no fear. 

being able to shape shots also promotes more imaginative play. Sometimes abit risky, but i think its fun and worth taking risks sometimes. a perfectly executed shot is the best feeling ever!! Razz

All that said. it doesn't matter if u draw/hook, fade/slice! as long as you are consistent and accurate. everyone will fear you! muahahahaha!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Hitting draws and fades   Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:09 pm

abadan wrote:
Everybody has a predominant shot shape, be it a draw or a fade type swing. some just hit it dead straight. I know plenty of single hcps that dun shape shots but suffer when they play tight courses or when they get into trouble. 

Being able to shape shots will be a huge advantage. If you are stuck behind an obstacle. i.e tree or lamp post, etc. It also allows you to manage the course differently. 

It also helps when u play course with lotsa dogleg holes, or have alot of trouble left/right of fw.

I agree with slinger that its not necessary, but def a plus if you can do it, play any course also no fear. 

being able to shape shots also promotes more imaginative play. Sometimes abit risky, but i think its fun and worth taking risks sometimes. a perfectly executed shot is the best feeling ever!! Razz

All that said. it doesn't matter if u draw/hook, fade/slice! as long as you are consistent and accurate. everyone will fear you! muahahahaha!!!
er.....lamp post free lift leh....Beer
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