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PostSubject: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:25 pm

Was reading some topics/online on improvement irons...but not sure "exactly" what it meant. Does it help newbies like me who has high handicap, inconsistent swing and short drives etc...improve the game lol Swing
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:36 pm

There are 2 schools of thoughts

(1) believes that GI irons are bad for developing a sound swing as swing flaws are masked and shots still fly close to intended line

(2) believes that GI irons are good for the ever improving golfer enjoy the game as he develops his swing

No right or wrong. Some PGA professionals are also using cavity backed GI irons.
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:41 pm

From what I know, there are 3 broad types of irons out there:

1. Player irons. Typically blades. For low handicappers. Good for shot shaping. Eg. Ping i20, Mizuno MP-64, Titleist AP2.

2. Game Improvement irons. Typically muscle-back or cavity-back irons. For mid to high handicappers. Quite forgiving. Wide sole. Eg. Ping G20, Mizuno JPX-800 Pro, Titleist AP1.

3. Super Game Improvement irons. Like Game Improvement irons but even more so. Intended for high handicappers, beginners etc. Very forgiving. Eg. Ping K15, Mizuno JPX-800 HD, TM Rockeballz Max.

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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:08 pm

Technospaz wrote:
From what I know, there are 3 broad types of irons out there:

1. Player irons. Typically blades. For low handicappers. Good for shot shaping. Eg. Ping i20, Mizuno MP-64, Titleist AP2, Nike VR Pro Blade.

2. Game Improvement irons. Typically muscle-back or cavity-back irons. For mid to high handicappers. Quite forgiving. Wide sole. Eg. Ping G20, Mizuno JPX-800 Pro, Titleist AP1, Nike VR Pro Combo/Cavity.

3. Super Game Improvement irons. Like Game Improvement irons but even more so. Intended for high handicappers, beginners etc. Very forgiving. Eg. Ping K15, Mizuno JPX-800 HD, TM Rockeballz Max, Nike SQ Machspeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:15 pm

Apologies, Ken.

I forgot about your sponsor.

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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:22 pm

Actually I would put the Pro Blade and Combo/Cavity as Players Irons, the Machspeed as GI and the Slingshot series as Super GI ... but yes ... we get the point Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:30 pm

lol! i just put more choices for bro and sis here... Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:05 pm

so in another words...newbies like myself shld start with GI or Super GI? But do these "improvement" realli help me to improve since there are 2 school of thoughts...lol
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:46 pm

Get what looks pleasing to your eyes..
Nothing worse than looking down at the clubs and thinking they are big and ugly.. or thinking how the heck can someone hit something that small.......

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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:52 pm

I am not sure if irons are also related to this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk




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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Improves your game as mishit shots still fly but does not necessarily improves your skills
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:34 pm

kenkong79 wrote:
Technospaz wrote:
From what I know, there are 3 broad types of irons out there:

1. Player irons. Typically blades. For low handicappers. Good for shot shaping. Eg. Ping i20, Mizuno MP-64, Titleist AP2, Nike VR Pro Blade.

2. Game Improvement irons. Typically muscle-back or cavity-back irons. For mid to high handicappers. Quite forgiving. Wide sole. Eg. Ping G20, Mizuno JPX-800 Pro, Titleist AP1, Nike VR Pro Combo/Cavity.

3. Super Game Improvement irons. Like Game Improvement irons but even more so. Intended for high handicappers, beginners etc. Very forgiving. Eg. Ping K15, Mizuno JPX-800 HD, TM Rockeballz Max, Nike SQ Machspeed.
Beer Beer Beer

The SQ Machspeed did give me a hard time initially. And couple it with a NSPro 950, even my instructor advised that it is a little heavy for me.

So when I tried my friend's Mizuno JPX 800 Forged, it felt like I'm swinging twigs.
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:51 pm

jac_mav wrote:
so in another words...newbies like myself shld start with GI or Super GI? But do these "improvement" realli help me to improve since there are 2 school of thoughts...lol

GI/SGI clubs are intended to help prevent mishits and help struggling golfers. But, if there are inherent flaws in your swing, it may be better to invest in seeing a coach Smile (I keep telling that to myself.)

But certainly, you'll enjoy the game more if you're a newbie golfer if you started out with a GI/SGI set. Obviously, this assumes that you're like the rest of us landscape artists rather than those born with inherent talent like Rory.

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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:30 pm

Technospaz wrote:
jac_mav wrote:
so in another words...newbies like myself shld start with GI or Super GI? But do these "improvement" realli help me to improve since there are 2 school of thoughts...lol

GI/SGI clubs are intended to help prevent mishits and help struggling golfers. But, if there are inherent flaws in your swing, it may be better to invest in seeing a coach Smile (I keep telling that to myself.)

But certainly, you'll enjoy the game more if you're a newbie golfer if you started out with a GI/SGI set. Obviously, this assumes that you're like the rest of us landscape artists rather than those born with inherent talent like Rory.

Haha love your comment of being landscape artist lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:09 pm

when still a PC golfer, any iron set that FEEL light will do. As you break 100, you most probably going to hit your 7I pretty well. Breaking 90, your long irons is pretty good at the moment.
If you intend to change to a heavier iron set like steel shafts, your long irons will suffer and thats where GI, SGI and hybrids came into picture. You get control on short and mid irons with heavier shafts but you need forgivingness at long irons.
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PostSubject: Re: Improvement Irons   Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:12 pm

Technospaz wrote:
jac_mav wrote:
so in another words...newbies like myself shld start with GI or Super GI? But do these "improvement" realli help me to improve since there are 2 school of thoughts...lol

GI/SGI clubs are intended to help prevent mishits and help struggling golfers. But, if there are inherent flaws in your swing, it may be better to invest in seeing a coach Smile (I keep telling that to myself.)

But certainly, you'll enjoy the game more if you're a newbie golfer if you started out with a GI/SGI set. Obviously, this assumes that you're like the rest of us landscape artists rather than those born with inherent talent like Rory.

Regarding the swing, some of us would say my driver is ok but how come my long irons are like shyt. I think that some of us need a heavier to lighter club as the irons get less loft.
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