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r3iz Newbie Golfer
Posts: 16 Join date: 2013-01-02
 | Subject: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:10 pm | |
| There are tons of different kind of clubs that aids beginners/mid to high handicappers and pros.. but i was wondering why not just get the 'pro' sets and keep practising on them? rather than incurring cost by buying beginner sets.. then upgrading to intermediate sets.. then upgrading to pro sets etc. ..why not? |
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BestofTheBest Newbie Golfer

Posts: 75 Join date: 2012-09-24
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:12 pm | |
| try the cobra amp irons...
$399 brand new ...
cheap, good, accurate, goes far, and feels soft... |
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kevinhwc Senior Golfer


Posts: 380 Join date: 2011-03-16 Age: 30 Location: Punggol
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:17 pm | |
| Hi r3jz, Getting a blade for example, some people may be frustrated and quit golf before they are ready to use the blades.. For myself, I got a mid HCP irons to start of with, not too forgiving but at the same time, not as punishing as a blade...  Different people have different preference. Using a beginner set to start of with, you start by developing your swing and gain confidence from there before moving on to the next set. The choice is yours... |
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enwee Incredibly Active Golfer


Posts: 3079 Join date: 2011-12-30 Location: Seletar Hills
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kevinhwc Senior Golfer


Posts: 380 Join date: 2011-03-16 Age: 30 Location: Punggol
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Tiramisu Junior Golfer


Posts: 174 Join date: 2012-10-22
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:36 pm | |
| ..why not?  [/quote] No matter what u still ended up changing....[/quote] Yes, I agreed. Cos my son is at this phrase now. |
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kevinhwc Senior Golfer


Posts: 380 Join date: 2011-03-16 Age: 30 Location: Punggol
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:10 pm | |
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abadan Junior Golfer


Posts: 242 Join date: 2011-08-12
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Sean76 Senior Golfer


Posts: 404 Join date: 2011-12-29
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:13 pm | |
| | BestofTheBest wrote: | try the cobra amp irons...
$399 brand new ...
cheap, good, accurate, goes far, and feels soft... |
Can advise where to get the cobra amp iron at $399? Cheapest I have found was at GD but its abt $500. |
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BestofTheBest Newbie Golfer

Posts: 75 Join date: 2012-09-24
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:16 pm | |
| Opps sorry
Its $499 from GD
My bad... |
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Derek Caddy

Posts: 1787 Join date: 2009-10-20 Age: 39
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:09 pm | |
| By "Pro" clubs I take it that you are referring to irons used by Touring Pros? Or those touted as "Player's Irons"? Touring Pros use a variety of clubs, some less forgiving (pure blades), some more forgiving (e.g. Titleist AP2). Some use long irons, some use hybrids ... BUT all of them want the same thing ... equipment that will help them score better. One school of thought is that if we are going to learn something from Touring Pros, it is to use whatever will help you shoot a lower score. i.e. use equipment suited to YOU, appreciate the forgiveness built into such equipment because it will make golf slightly easier. Another school of thought is that practicing with forgiving equipment encourages bad habits because even fundamentally incorrect swings can produce acceptable results. Golfers who subscribe to this approach believe that unforgiving clubs give the "feedback" needed to improve. A swing which sends a Game Improvement 6 iron relatively straight might not even be able to launch a bladed iron of a similar loft (since GI clubs all have stronger lofts, it would probably translate to a 5 iron or less on a "Player's" iron set). Hence, the concept is to get clubs that will let you know instantly when you have made a good swing. The flip side is that it will instantly tell you when you have made a bad swing as well. Not trying to make it sound like mission impossible, but even if you have learnt how to use blades on the driving range, the journey is only 25% complete. You still need to learn how to use such clubs on the golf course. Grass and soil are a lot less forgiving than driving range mats. You will need to be pretty committed to practicing and playing frequently in order to use such clubs effectively on the course. It depends on what you want and your personality. Are you willing to commit all that time and effort (and it may take months of continous daily practice to achieve basic short iron proficiency) to learn how to play a game? Can you deal with the disappointment of duffing the majority of your iron shots on the course after a supposed good range session? Or hitting it decently and leaving all your iron shots short of the green? It sounds very negative, but these are the facts of what normally happens when you put blades or unforgiving player's irons in the hands of begginers or even mid to high handicappers. If these clubs are so hard to use, why do pros use them? I don't really know, but my guess is that at that level, they are more concerned with spin control and trajectory. And the clubs that are designed to help beginners and amatuers launch the ball and play the game will result in too much spin (and/or too high an initial lanuch angle) when used by Tour Pros, who have a much higher swing speed than average amateurs. Summary of my very long post: 1) We do not swing like tour pros 2) Even practicing 8 hours a day, very few of us have the ability to swing like a tour pro 3) Depending on the characteristics of your swing, the optimal equipment for you varies 4) Tour Pros use what suits them best, shouldn't you? That being said, one of the unwritten goals of GR is to promote the 2nd hand golf equipment market in Singapore, so just buy what you like, and if it doesn't work out, sell it off and buy another set! _________________ ======================================== What's in the Bag
Driver: CG Black 9 Deg S Flex Modified (45 in) Woods: Nike 18 Deg VR Pro with Proj X 6.0 Hybrids: 22 Deg TM SF i70R, 25 Deg Cobra NS 950R Irons 6-Pw: BFG CB-003 SF i95S Wedges: BFG 51 Deg and 55 Deg, KBS Hi-Rev Putter: Odyssey Black ix with Crown Jumbo Grip
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haragolfer Caddy


Posts: 1040 Join date: 2010-12-02
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:18 pm | |
| | Derek wrote: | By "Pro" clubs I take it that you are referring to irons used by Touring Pros? Or those touted as "Player's Irons"? Touring Pros use a variety of clubs, some less forgiving (pure blades), some more forgiving (e.g. Titleist AP2). Some use long irons, some use hybrids ... BUT all of them want the same thing ... equipment that will help them score better.
One school of thought is that if we are going to learn something from Touring Pros, it is to use whatever will help you shoot a lower score. i.e. use equipment suited to YOU, appreciate the forgiveness built into such equipment because it will make golf slightly easier.
Another school of thought is that practicing with forgiving equipment encourages bad habits because even fundamentally incorrect swings can produce acceptable results. Golfers who subscribe to this approach believe that unforgiving clubs give the "feedback" needed to improve. A swing which sends a Game Improvement 6 iron relatively straight might not even be able to launch a bladed iron of a similar loft (since GI clubs all have stronger lofts, it would probably translate to a 5 iron or less on a "Player's" iron set). Hence, the concept is to get clubs that will let you know instantly when you have made a good swing. The flip side is that it will instantly tell you when you have made a bad swing as well.
Not trying to make it sound like mission impossible, but even if you have learnt how to use blades on the driving range, the journey is only 25% complete. You still need to learn how to use such clubs on the golf course. Grass and soil are a lot less forgiving than driving range mats. You will need to be pretty committed to practicing and playing frequently in order to use such clubs effectively on the course.
It depends on what you want and your personality. Are you willing to commit all that time and effort (and it may take months of continous daily practice to achieve basic short iron proficiency) to learn how to play a game? Can you deal with the disappointment of duffing the majority of your iron shots on the course after a supposed good range session? Or hitting it decently and leaving all your iron shots short of the green? It sounds very negative, but these are the facts of what normally happens when you put blades or unforgiving player's irons in the hands of begginers or even mid to high handicappers.
If these clubs are so hard to use, why do pros use them? I don't really know, but my guess is that at that level, they are more concerned with spin control and trajectory. And the clubs that are designed to help beginners and amatuers launch the ball and play the game will result in too much spin (and/or too high an initial lanuch angle) when used by Tour Pros, who have a much higher swing speed than average amateurs.
Summary of my very long post:
1) We do not swing like tour pros 2) Even practicing 8 hours a day, very few of us have the ability to swing like a tour pro 3) Depending on the characteristics of your swing, the optimal equipment for you varies 4) Tour Pros use what suits them best, shouldn't you?
That being said, one of the unwritten goals of GR is to promote the 2nd hand golf equipment market in Singapore, so just buy what you like, and if it doesn't work out, sell it off and buy another set!
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That my firend is a sermon worthy of the pulpit. Amen to that._________________  "I have an army" "we have a Hulk" |
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slinger Hall of Fame Golfer


Posts: 5322 Join date: 2009-06-19 Age: 43 Location: Wild Wild West
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:27 pm | |
| to the mbgc ksls 18 aka derek....
u are morphing to our dear fren ciao lang aka birdman....
STOP IT!!!!!!!! |
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Derek Caddy

Posts: 1787 Join date: 2009-10-20 Age: 39
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tronos Super Active Golfer

Posts: 1114 Join date: 2009-06-21
 | Subject: Re: Deciding on what kind of clubs to buy Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:06 pm | |
| just buy a cheap blade set, play with it once or twice, then get it out of your system. Nothing worst than getting an expensive set like Muira and then die die stick with it (cause its expensive).
my opinion as a beginner myself is to try it.... if u think too much, it will affect ur game (too many "what if") and the love for the game. U hear ppl write or talk about blade set, ur mind start going into overdrive (disadvantages vs advantages, then there is that new set that removes all the disadvantage ie rocketbladez....) u may not play better now but u will enjoy the game more.
try it, even make a small effort. If it does not work out, no regrets now (not like the set may cause u a few stoke that prevent u from getting below 80....now u score 99 or 110, its no big difference........79 or 81, A LOT!!!! )
BTW i played a vintage blade set for 3-4 full games...not much difference but 6 iron onwards it gets tough. Certainly can never play it like a SGI set. Distance also much shorter but u realise that u are more accurate (no more trying to get on the green from 160-170m out..just layup and chip)
thats y got combo set...
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