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PostSubject: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:02 am

Where do you mainly miss on straight putts?
left of hole or right of hole?

Seems that we seem to think that the flat stick is the easiest to aim, but it seems that there is a lot to aiming a flatstick




Which of the above putter is most square to the left window line.
Naked eye only, no cheating.
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:18 am

I would say the one on the left. Proper aim & alignment is the foundation of a good putt. But having properly aimed, we need to return the club to this position when swinging and in my own experience, I find that if I maintain the same grip pressure throughout the swing, I would have a much higher chance of getting the ball off on the right line. In my anxiety to hit the putt, I sometimes unconsciously tighten my grip on the downswing and that causes a slight change in the position of my putter face and the result is an obvious miss!
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:26 am

The extreme left one
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:46 am

Gofnut wrote:
I would say the one on the left. Proper aim & alignment is the foundation of a good putt. But having properly aimed, we need to return the club to this position when swinging and in my own experience, I find that if I maintain the same grip pressure throughout the swing, I would have a much higher chance of getting the ball off on the right line. In my anxiety to hit the putt, I sometimes unconsciously tighten my grip on the downswing and that causes a slight change in the position of my putter face and the result is an obvious miss!

Yes getting back square is good, but what if your aim was off during setup?
Would getting back square do you any good?
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:46 am

the extreme right one looks most square to my eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:56 am

Although it does look like the extreme left one is square, i think that all 3 of them are square to the line.. maybe the different shaft leans are playing havoc with our eyes.

I could be wrong though.. in which case i know the reason for constantly missing short putts ! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:09 pm

IMO, correct setup / square is middle one (Assuming the loft @4deg (Scotty)), messing with the loft would mess up the CG. And only fine putter alignment inline with their CG.
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:23 pm

my guess - extreme right.
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:55 pm

this is interesting, i choose extreme right
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:59 pm

sob wrote:
[Yes getting back square is good, but what if your aim was off during setup?
Would getting back square do you any good?

That is why I said the proper aim and alignment is the foundation. If this is not done correctly, then it would be pointless to bring the club back to square.
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:10 pm

They are all actually square to the left side window



How you perceived the squareness of the putters are in part due to our master eye and putter design

in these case, me being a right master eye person, the left putter appears more close(result right bias) and the right putter more open(result left bias).Center one appears square.

But I have to return my putter square first. Razz

Tests have shown that 80% of golfers who think that they are aiming at the cup from a 6 feet distance are not.

So key is that we have to aim correctly, so knowing your aim bias will help you make more putts

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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:44 pm

Does that conclude a right bias person should use a mallot putter and left bias the stick putter?
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:45 pm

You can find this book in the library. It has a very good section on how putter's design affect the aim, alignment, etc. Even the shape of the putter, type of hosel, amount of offset can affect the aim. Very good read if you have the time.


http://www.amazon.com/GOLF-Best-Putting-Instruction-Book/dp/1603201483
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:06 pm

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looking at the 3 putters in the pic, observations

1)the mallet has a curved back, giving it a close look(left aim bias)

2)while the other two blade putters appears to be the same, the center appears thicker than the extreme right one.
The thinner look tends to promote a right aim bias

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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:24 pm

This thread confuses me...
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:29 pm

Extreme right. I have right master eye. Less offset looks better for me
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:32 pm

pushslice wrote:
Extreme right. I have right master eye. Less offset looks better for me

LOL semua sama lah pak!
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:30 pm

Haha thats why i said looks better, not actually IS better Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:33 pm

pushslice wrote:
Haha thats why i said looks better, not actually IS better Laughing

Pak, cannot join us ah for 5 club?
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:35 pm

Cant bro..leave already used for a golf trip. I wait for pure Iron man game.
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:50 pm

pushslice wrote:
Cant bro..leave already used for a golf trip. I wait for pure Iron man game.

terror la you. Iron man coming april 28. we aim for may iron man k.
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:55 pm

Interesting ... i realised a long time ago that I can't seem to align my putter face perpendicular to the direction i want the ball to go ...

I used to draw alignment lines on my balls, then align the putter face to it, but when I look down, both the line and the face seem to be pointing left of the target ... aside from master eye, I am sure the position of my head over the ball might be causing some kind of parallex error ... in short, my eyes were probably sending the wrong message to my head

This led to me adjusting and missing a lot of putts to the right, or worrying about my stroke, or trying to manipulate the face, or a million other things that was causing me to be a really lousy putter on the course ... however, on a putting mat, on when there is an alignment line to follow, i was a pretty decent putter

Somewhere along the way, I decided to just focus on a spot about 6-8 inches in front of the ball (along the line that I want to hit) and just think about getting the ball to roll over that spot. Occasionally, if there are no markings on the green to serve as reference points, I will align the ball markings to that line. Key point is that once I do that, I have to TRUST that line, even though when I address the ball, it looks wrong (the dissonance is the reason I don't line up the ball in the first place) and commit to hitting it along that line.

I am not a good putter, but taking away the doubt as helped me go from a really F**Ked up putter to a average/slightly below average putter, and i hole slightly more 4 foot putts now as when I used to worry about my stroke and my aim and everything else.

I really envy the guys whose eyes, brain signals and stroke all match up and send the same signal. Unfortunately, I am not one of them, so I had to find a way around it, which has produced ok results for me ... now if only my problems with the other parts of my game were as easy to work around

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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:10 pm

Wahhh! Soooo chim. Shocked

My putting simple, align the ball's logo/arrow to my target line, square my putter face, swing my putter face towards target, and most IMPORTANT, PRAY!!! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:18 pm

NikeN wrote:
Wahhh! Soooo chim. Shocked

My putting simple, align the ball's logo/arrow to my target line, square my putter face, swing my putter face towards target, and most IMPORTANT, PRAY!!! Razz

+1

That's what I do too.

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PostSubject: Re: Putting - What's your bias?   Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:16 pm

that's why i envy you guys, you are able to see if your putter face is square to the target ... i can't ... what I think is square is actually right of the target

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