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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:20 pm

Driving it long is a sure advantage, but driving it inconsistently long is a big problem for your target. Snaphook might be sign of forcing. Perhaps you should try to relax a bit and just concentrate on your swing. You may be surprise at the outcome of straighter drives.

I am not a pro but just sharing my views.

Nonetheless I enjoy your writeup and hope you achieve your target soon.
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:35 pm

neutralgolfer wrote:
Driving it long is a sure advantage, but driving it inconsistently long is a big problem for your target. Snaphook might be sign of forcing. Perhaps you should try to relax a bit and just concentrate on your swing. You may be surprise at the outcome of straighter drives.

I am not a pro but just sharing my views.

Nonetheless I enjoy your writeup and hope you achieve your target soon.

Thanks for the input! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:26 pm

Hey Herpderp, I was just wondering something ... if you really dislike shots inside 100m ... why are you using clubs that will get you there?

E.g. Driver on shorter Par 4s and woods or long irons on Par 5s (if you can reach the green in 2 it is a different story)

If you hit a good shot, you are left with an uncomfortable situation, not the kind of outcome you want.

To score well at MBGC, it is important to know where the flat spots on the fairway are, even if it means taking a slightly longer 2nd shot ... golf is tough enough without having the factor in uphill/downhill/sidehill lies

You are long enough to be able to have a choice of clubs off the teebox and still be able to get to an optimal approach distance into the green. I would suggest the next time you play, look out for where the flat spots are and then work backwards to determine which club to tee off with.

For example, for Hole 4, the flat area is between 115m-135m from the green, and it also takes the water on the right out of play. Given how wide the fairway is, it is very easy to reach this area, and with a wedge or short iron in hand on a flat level lie, chances are it'll be an easy par if you go for the middle of the green (note, ok to be short or left for this green, do NOT go right or long).

Another example is Hole 10, the whole fairway is undulating, the flattest part is the portion around the cart path on the right, in the light rough. If you are playing flower bed free drop, then just unload at the cart path. If you are playing flower bed as hazard, then hit the tee shot toward right hand side leaving about 150m into the green (short of the flower bed).

I am far from a good player but I have managed some decent scores at MBGC by playing boring conservative golf ...

That being said, I still seem to have more fun smashing the ball as hard as I can and trying shots which I do not have the ability to execute (aka HERO shots), but it makes for a really poor scorecard

Good luck!

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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:05 pm

That's very good insight. I will do that on my next game and update the results here
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:03 am

herpderp wrote:
riverdeity wrote:
asahi wrote:
Herpderp, let's arrange a weekend game in mbgc in July ya.

Gonna be traveling for next 3 weeks

Asahi, long time no game, gonna be back in july too. maybe can arrange a game.
In quite similar situation to herpderp, trying to consistently break 80

we can probably arrange a game together, doesnt necessarily have to be mbgc, i dont mind playing other clubs

Anywhere else is good as well, if not i have to waste 10 bucks on a swing test at MBGC
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:05 pm

Bro, your kind of distance is what most of us can only dream about.
With this kind of driving distance, I really do not see why you cannot break 80……especially with your improved putting stats after reverting to your old putter.

In my view (take with a pinch of salt), you just need to practice on chipping and putting.
Reason being your ave drive is around 260m.
Most par 4 from blue tees are around 370m plus minus.
That means your 2nd shot is likely to be in the 100m range.
If you can handle a long driver, I do not see why you cannot handle a short wedge.
Even if you cannot put it on, you must be around the fringe thereabout……cannot be too far out.

This is where your chipping comes in.
You need to chip until a gimmee distance.
And there is no short cut to short game, you need to chip and chip, practice and practice until you can feel the ball, feel the roll, feel the distance….it really is a feel.
But this feel is ingrain after many hours of practice.
You may have the right technique for chipping but feel is another thing altogether.
My coach once told me once you get the technique right, you should have 1 or 2 chip in every couple of rounds…..and he is right.
If you can control such a big swing, there is no reason why you cannot control this mini swing aka chip….

I have a fren. He will spend hours every Sat morning @ Kranji just to practice his chipping. He is a single handicapper and look how dedicate he is to short game.
I’m just a average player, so my views may not make sense to you.
But based on experience, I can attest that my 2 best scores so far were attained not because of many GIR, but rather due to many 1 chip 1 putt.

Jia you bro, you will get there.
If u do not mind a hacker, next time if u need a kaki in mbgc on a Sat morning, pls feel free to jio me
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:11 pm

Thanks for the time u took to write that post, really appreciate it. I suppose that's what I will do from now, spend some time at the chipping green every time I'm there. I guess I give myself a lot of pressure to put it close to the pin, which causes me to slow down the club head at impact or even lift it up causes the duffs and the blading. Gotta work on my chipping to build confidence and I hope hay confidence comes soon.

We could have a game sometime soon, probably next week or with bro asahi and askley k
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:39 pm

Bro, you do not need birdies to break 80.
Aim for the centre of the green, give and take a bit here and there left and right…… and you are still on.
If you go for the pin, chances of error are much higher cos mentally you are telling yourself to hit a perfect shot.
That puts strain on your mind and also your muscle……I think u know what I want to say liao.

Your aim is to break 80 not to get many birdies.
So if u can safely on and 2 putt, it’s a par.
When u are very proficeint with your approach shot (your favourite go to distance), then u can chiong for the pin.

Apologies cos I am a high handicapper and yet I am advising a low hanciapper…
I believe you know what is wrong and where u need to improve……
All the best


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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:40 pm

How I wish I have your determination to do it.
That's explain why my game is always that bad.
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:54 pm

skybobo wrote:
Bro, you do not need birdies to break 80.
Aim for the centre of the green, give and take a bit here and there left and right…… and you are still on.
If you go for the pin, chances of error are much higher cos mentally you are telling yourself to hit a perfect shot.
That puts strain on your mind and also your muscle……I think u know what I want to say liao.

Your aim is to break 80 not to get many birdies.
So if u can safely on and 2 putt, it’s a par.
When u are very proficeint with your approach shot (your favourite go to distance), then u can chiong for the pin.

Apologies cos I am a high handicapper and yet I am advising a low hanciapper…
I believe you know what is wrong and where u need to improve……
All the best



bro skybobo may be a high handicapper but he dishes out good advises....

i listen to him many times...

so much so that i consider him to be my shi xiong....

Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:50 pm

this is one thread which I learnt alot...

key takeway:

Short game is important......
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:52 pm

thats true, and that being long off the tee may not always be good. always better to choose a distance to go to where by the lie is good and u get your favourite distance to approach the green
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:37 am

slinger wrote:
skybobo wrote:
Bro, you do not need birdies to break 80.
Aim for the centre of the green, give and take a bit here and there left and right…… and you are still on.
If you go for the pin, chances of error are much higher cos mentally you are telling yourself to hit a perfect shot.
That puts strain on your mind and also your muscle……I think u know what I want to say liao.

Your aim is to break 80 not to get many birdies.
So if u can safely on and 2 putt, it’s a par.
When u are very proficeint with your approach shot (your favourite go to distance), then u can chiong for the pin.

Apologies cos I am a high handicapper and yet I am advising a low hanciapper…
I believe you know what is wrong and where u need to improve……
All the best



bro skybobo may be a high handicapper but he dishes out good advises....

i listen to him many times...

so much so that i consider him to be my shi xiong....

Very Happy
Mai suan me lah bro, if I can be half as good as you I will jio many ppl to play vegas liao
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:39 am

skybobo i got 1 slot on sunday morning u wanna join me?
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:41 am

Sorry bro, I can only play Sat morning Sad
Thanks for asking
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:18 pm

bro skybobo is very diligent in practising his short game, he will always arrive 1 hour before tee off time to practice
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:16 pm

arrive early and practice and still play so lousy.....can retire liao lah

Sigh, not that I very diligent but more because I have no choice as I dun have the luxury of time to go range on weekday.
So the only range time I have is the time before tee off.

My typical routine is to arrive at 6.15am.
Pick up balls from the range…..around 70 balls.
Start warm up from wedge to driver……around 5 balls each.
Then proceed to chip and putt before my 757 tee off.
This is also the reason why I prefer Changi then Kranji as Kranji has no range.

Ok ok bulls aside. In my view, if you really want to be a serious golfer, you need to spend at least an hour to warm up before your tee off.
And if your schedule allows, head straight to the range after your game to either correct your swing or reinforce the things you did right.

Sigh, most of us have family commitment……not easy to be so committed.
As what Pocketace use to say……when we are students, we have time but no money to play golf
When we start working, we have money but no time to par golf
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:18 pm

Like what my boss tells me, its when you are old that you have both time and money for golf! Granted you are still in shape and can walk or bend down to tee. I can!

skybobo wrote:
arrive early and practice and still play so lousy.....can retire liao lah

Sigh, not that I very diligent but more because I have no choice as I dun have the luxury of time to go range on weekday.
So the only range time I have is the time before tee off.

My typical routine is to arrive at 6.15am.
Pick up balls from the range…..around 70 balls.
Start warm up from wedge to driver……around 5 balls each.
Then proceed to chip and putt before my 757 tee off.
This is also the reason why I prefer Changi then Kranji as Kranji has no range.

Ok ok bulls aside. In my view, if you really want to be a serious golfer, you need to spend at least an hour to warm up before your tee off.
And if your schedule allows, head straight to the range after your game to either correct your swing or reinforce the things you did right.

Sigh, most of us have family commitment……not easy to be so committed.
As what Pocketace use to say……when we are students, we have time but no money to play golf
When we start working, we have money but no time to par golf
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:09 pm

skybobo wrote:
slinger wrote:
skybobo wrote:
Bro, you do not need birdies to break 80.
Aim for the centre of the green, give and take a bit here and there left and right…… and you are still on.
If you go for the pin, chances of error are much higher cos mentally you are telling yourself to hit a perfect shot.
That puts strain on your mind and also your muscle……I think u know what I want to say liao.

Your aim is to break 80 not to get many birdies.
So if u can safely on and 2 putt, it’s a par.
When u are very proficeint with your approach shot (your favourite go to distance), then u can chiong for the pin.

Apologies cos I am a high handicapper and yet I am advising a low hanciapper…
I believe you know what is wrong and where u need to improve……
All the best



bro skybobo may be a high handicapper but he dishes out good advises....

i listen to him many times...

so much so that i consider him to be my shi xiong....

Very Happy
Mai suan me lah bro, if I can be half as good as you I will jio many ppl to play vegas liao


Bro, u can still jio slinger to play vegas & banker player ...... his weakness is he doesnt know how to say 'no' to your request ........
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:40 am

skybobo wrote:
Bro, you do not need birdies to break 80.
Aim for the centre of the green, give and take a bit here and there left and right…… and you are still on.
If you go for the pin, chances of error are much higher cos mentally you are telling yourself to hit a perfect shot.
That puts strain on your mind and also your muscle……I think u know what I want to say liao.

Your aim is to break 80 not to get many birdies.
So if u can safely on and 2 putt, it’s a par.
When u are very proficeint with your approach shot (your favourite go to distance), then u can chiong for the pin.

Apologies cos I am a high handicapper and yet I am advising a low hanciapper…
I believe you know what is wrong and where u need to improve……
All the best

Great advice from a very good golfer who have no time to practise and play but still can beat me.

ATTACK THE GREEN AND NEED NOT TO ATTACK PIN AT ALL TIMES!

thats my slogan but i m still struggling with my game!


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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:41 am

drawbias wrote:
skybobo wrote:
slinger wrote:
skybobo wrote:
Bro, you do not need birdies to break 80.
Aim for the centre of the green, give and take a bit here and there left and right…… and you are still on.
If you go for the pin, chances of error are much higher cos mentally you are telling yourself to hit a perfect shot.
That puts strain on your mind and also your muscle……I think u know what I want to say liao.

Your aim is to break 80 not to get many birdies.
So if u can safely on and 2 putt, it’s a par.
When u are very proficeint with your approach shot (your favourite go to distance), then u can chiong for the pin.

Apologies cos I am a high handicapper and yet I am advising a low hanciapper…
I believe you know what is wrong and where u need to improve……
All the best



bro skybobo may be a high handicapper but he dishes out good advises....

i listen to him many times...

so much so that i consider him to be my shi xiong....

Very Happy
Mai suan me lah bro, if I can be half as good as you I will jio many ppl to play vegas liao


Bro, u can still jio slinger to play vegas & banker player ...... his weakness is he doesnt know how to say 'no' to your request ........

Is Drawbias part time job to hang around casinos and jio people to go in n gamble n get commission?
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:05 am

How I wish Poersia ...
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:00 pm

due to a sprained wrist i have put off my practice sessions this week. just got TCM done at ma kuang. last time they treated sprains by simply twisting the sprained area back, now they do it with needles. omg hurt like hell. 

on a side note, will be reshafting my wedges from their stock shaft to kbs hi rev S, and installing the c taper shaft (S) on my 7 iron to try out the shaft for my games on sat morning (18 holes) and sun morning.

apparently its supposed to give a lower and more penetrating ball flight with less spin. does this mean that it wont grip on the green and may roll off on my approaches?
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:08 pm

What shafts are you using at the moment?
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PostSubject: Re: My Quest to break 80 by 31 Dec 2013   Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:16 pm

noob shafts... stock shaft of AP 2. NS PRO 950
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