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Miyaki
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PostSubject: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:33 pm

Any kind souls can advise?
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:48 am

I am a newbie as well.

But understand from my colleagues, the shaft for tour will be stiffer and CG lower to encourage lower trajectory for more distance.

Tour series are generally for lower handicappers.

Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:06 am

I think the tour version is smaller head? Also tour version generally open face.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:20 pm

enwee wrote:
I think the tour version is smaller head? Also tour version generally open face.
Bro, not for Stage II this time (U can read it in GolfWRX) ... The head size, shape and neutral face angle are all similar except only for the shaft used. In the past, the Burner standard version and TP version have differences like shape of clubhead (deeper & more compact for TP version although CC was similar) and open face clubhead face (about 2-3 deg open for TP version) and the shaft as well (Ozik Matrix 65g on the TP version) ... and therefore resulted in differing swing weight (D4 on the TP version).


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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:39 pm

You can read under Performance by clicking the link below:

http://www.golfwrx.com/88557/taylormade-rocketballz-stage-2-driver-editor-review/

The RBZ Stage 2 Tour driver uses the same head shape as the non-Tour model, but changes in TaylorMade’s tooling allowed engineers to move the CG lower and more forward. This lowers spin, giving higher-speed players the flatter trajectory they need to maximize carry and roll.

The RBZ Stage 2 drivers are available in a standard version with lofts of 9.5, 10.5 and 11.5 with a Fujikura RocketFuel 50 graphite shaft in X, S, R and M flexes in a standard length of 46 inches and a swing weight of D6 for $249.

The Tour Version ($299) comes in 9- and 10.5-degree lofts with Matrix’s 6Q3 or 7Q3 “Red Tie” shaft. Its standard length is 45.5 inches with a D4 swing weight.

Both drivers feature TaylorMade’s 3-degree loft sleeve, which adjusts loft and face angle simultaneously.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:30 pm

Taylormade is confusing the end user, go to the US web, you can see the stage 2 got 4 models. Stage 2, stage 2 TP, Stage 2 tour and stage 2 tour tp.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:13 pm

Turbo is right. they've stopped making TP models with open face ever since they've adjustable loft/lie adjustments. They let the user adjust to be the best settings for that individual. 

The difference in head is in e design. the Tour model has a deeper face and slightly different weight placement. TP models usually come with a heavier shaft, so they have slightly heavier heads to keep the club in a preferable swing weight range. Sounds a lil diff too. 

Enwee...

Stage 2 (normal) comes with 50 gram shaft
Stage 2 TP comes with a choice of TP shaft upgrade options. 
Stage 2 Tour comes with standard 6Q3 shaft.
Stage 2 Tour TP comes with a choice of TP shaft upgrade options.

TP shafts are no longer watered down. TM now quite strict on wat they put their TP logo on.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:40 pm

Now the problem is, as you adjust the loft angle downward, the clubhead face will open as well ... When you adjust the loft angle upward, the clubhead face will close accordingly at an angle ...

Bro abadan, do u know how much the clubhead face will open if you adjust the loft downward by 0.5 deg?
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:59 pm

I guess if you want more adjustability you can opt for the R11/R1 series.
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:04 am

pug wrote:
I guess if you want more adjustability you can opt for the R11/R1 series.
I am from the old skool ... If given a choice, I would opt for a non-adjustable driver ... Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:48 am

Turbo wrote:
Now the problem is, as you adjust the loft angle downward, the clubhead face will open as well ... When you adjust the loft angle upward, the clubhead face will close accordingly at an angle ...

Bro abadan, do u know how much the clubhead face will open if you adjust the loft downward by 0.5 deg?
A taylormade staff once told me that a 1 degree change in loft will change face angle by 2 degrees. Not sure how accurate this is. Anyone has any info?
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:31 am

Turbo wrote:
pug wrote:
I guess if you want more adjustability you can opt for the R11/R1 series.
I am from the old skool.. If given a choice, I would opt for a non-adjustable driver ... Cool
Do agree w u bro. Wink
But Technology advancement are Rocket science tat we cant ignore. Cool 
Still we hve to safe keep the basic (old skool) as our fundamental otherwise we wldnt knw where's the beginning in the first place. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Difference between stage 2 and stage 2 tour driver   Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:39 pm

For every one degree of loft you add... you close the face by 2*

i.e.. from 9*.. you add to 10.5*.. you will actually close the face by 3*. 
or... from 10*.. close to 8.5*.. you open the clubface 3*

That is why R11 and R1 has the adjustable sole plate for users to neutralise the clubface. 

Everyone has a diff swing. Some prefer square face, some like closed.. some like open. Its all a matter of preference. Adjustable clubs just gives u the versatility if/when you need it. Also a marketing strategy to reach a wider target market.
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