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PostSubject: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:01 pm

I've tried a lot of putters - partially because i'm constantly in search for something 'better', but mostly because i just like to collect putters.

anyhow, i've found that certain aspects of a putter are more important than others, in choosing the 'right' putter. The following are my views as an amateur golfer, and which are based on pure trial and error. i hope that these may be helpful to a newbie in search of a putter. Please feel free to share your views and to agree / disagree. Cheers!

Starting with the MOST IMPORTANT:

1. HOSEL DESIGN AND POSITION- ie whether it's plumbers neck, flow neck, centreshaft, heel shaft, offset / onset etc. I find that this is the most important aspect of a putter. i think this is because the hosel design has the greatest effect over ur putting stroke, as well as whether it conforms with ur dominant eye.

2. HEAD SHAPE - ie whether it's blade, wide-flanged blade, semi mallet, mallet, or UFO shape. I think this is because putting has quite a big feel element. so the putter must "suit ur eye". The way to find out what suits u is to just hold the different putters at address without swinging and see which one u can most instinctively imagine urself putting a good stroke on the ball. the correct head shape is the one that 'speaks' to u

3. SWING WEIGHT & OVERALL WEIGHT - i think this is because the swing weight has the greatest effect on ur swing tempo. so u need to find one that allows u to swing at a tempo that you are comfortable with and can consistently repeat. also, if the putter is too heavy or too light, it's hard to keep it on line in ur takeaway and follow through. the putter with the right weight is one where u can swing the putter on the correct path naturally and effortlessly

4. GRIP - this is the one thing which connects u to ur putter. the right grip will let u feel the most connected to ur putter, and gives u a sense of control over where the putter head is going.

5. LENGTH - This will affect ur setup and address position. U need to find a length which allows ur arms to hang naturally and ur shoulders to rock smoothly

6. ALIGNMENT AID - these include a wide range of things eg sight line, sight dot, color (white, satin, black etc), color contrasts (eg odyssey versa). Find something which makes it easiest to line up the putter ball and hole.

7. MATERIAL - ie whether it's forged or cast, whether stainless steel, carbon steel, copper, aluminium etc. All these will contribute to the 'softness' of the face and 'feel'.


Like i said, Please feel free to share your views and to agree / disagree =)



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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:11 pm

Regarding your most important point, I agree.. As a strong left eye dominant player, I can only putt with a non-offset putter.

I shared this on the other thread, an interesting site to determine the offset of your putter based on eye dominance. Let me know if it holds true for you.

https://goodeputter.com/DEO_2.html
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:20 pm

Good reading bro
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:23 pm

Interesting. How can I tell whether a putter is full offset, half offset or neutral?
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:25 pm

MyGolfSpy had an article some time back which elaborated on the first point of this post regarding the type of stroke vis a vis the hosel

http://www.mygolfspy.com/how-to-choose-right-putter-hosel-shape/
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:33 pm

Length.... & Lie Angle?

I see a number of golfers putter with the toe pointing up. Not sure what the effect on accuracy is...most likely people get used to their putter and make it work.
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:45 pm

not sure about you guys ... but at 4 feet I can never cover the black square with my thumb, i keep seeing it with either my right eye or my left eye ...

probably explains why the only way i can putt is by not looking at the putter head (after i have aligned the face to the target line)

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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:47 pm

Most impt is to buy and try and try until you find 'The One'
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:54 pm

Derek wrote:
not sure about you guys ... but at 4 feet I can never cover the black square with my thumb, i keep seeing it with either my right eye or my left eye ...

probably explains why the only way i can putt is by not looking at the putter head (after i have aligned the face to the target line)

Need a bigger thumb....

Anyways, guys who served NS should know their eye dominance.
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:05 pm

At 4 feet, i saw 2 images of my thumb, and i can never cover the black square ...

so how? Sad
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:15 am

bkll wrote:
Regarding your most important point, I agree.. As a strong left eye dominant player, I can only putt with a non-offset putter.

I shared this on the other thread, an interesting site to determine the offset of your putter based on eye dominance. Let me know if it holds true for you.

https://goodeputter.com/DEO_2.html
 
 Hi it's interesting that you mentioned that you are left eye dominant and use a non-offset putter.
 
i did a bit of reading and there are in fact completely opposing views on this.
 
On one hand, Butch Harmon says that "Left eye dominant players should consider the full and half offset first. Right eye dominant players should consider zero offset and 1/4 offset putters first."
http://www.butchharmonfloridian.com/2011/12/01/how-to-find-the-putter-of-your-dreams-in-five-minutes-or-less/
 
On the other hand, there's a very well-written article which explains that "A putter with face progression (ie zero offset on on-set (eg. odyssey backstryke) will allow the left-eye dominant player to set up with his hands in the middle of the stroke and the ball toward his left foot, under his left eye. A putter with offset will allow the right-eye dominant player to set up with his hands in the middle of the stroke"
http://thepowerfade.com/2012/09/17/understanding-putters-offset-face-progression-and-various-neck-styles/
 
Personally, i've tried centre-shafted zero offset putters, and they DO NOT work for me. I'm currently gaming a Red X putter which has offset. So i'm in the "butch harmon" camp.
 
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:16 am

pocketace wrote:
MyGolfSpy had an article some time back which elaborated on the first point of this post regarding the type of stroke vis a vis the hosel

http://www.mygolfspy.com/how-to-choose-right-putter-hosel-shape/

 great article
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:56 am

My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:02 pm

Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:13 pm

scottycollector wrote:
bkll wrote:
Regarding your most important point, I agree.. As a strong left eye dominant player, I can only putt with a non-offset putter.

I shared this on the other thread, an interesting site to determine the offset of your putter based on eye dominance. Let me know if it holds true for you.

https://goodeputter.com/DEO_2.html
 
 Hi it's interesting that you mentioned that you are left eye dominant and use a non-offset putter.
 
i did a bit of reading and there are in fact completely opposing views on this.
 
On one hand, Butch Harmon says that "Left eye dominant players should consider the full and half offset first. Right eye dominant players should consider zero offset and 1/4 offset putters first."
http://www.butchharmonfloridian.com/2011/12/01/how-to-find-the-putter-of-your-dreams-in-five-minutes-or-less/
 
On the other hand, there's a very well-written article which explains that "A putter with face progression (ie zero offset on on-set (eg. odyssey backstryke) will allow the left-eye dominant player to set up with his hands in the middle of the stroke and the ball toward his left foot, under his left eye. A putter with offset will allow the right-eye dominant player to set up with his hands in the middle of the stroke"
http://thepowerfade.com/2012/09/17/understanding-putters-offset-face-progression-and-various-neck-styles/
 
Personally, i've tried centre-shafted zero offset putters, and they DO NOT work for me. I'm currently gaming a Red X putter which has offset. So i'm in the "butch harmon" camp.
 
Haha
I think what you probably just did unwittingly, is to cause him to cast doubts on his choice of putter! LOL

At the end, it boils down to confidence. I have this Bettinardi center shafted with no offset cos I'm right eye dominant and tried to putt like Zach Johnson's style of reverse shaft lean... Nada, no can do

Then when using my Scotty notchback, with a bit of offset, putt with forward lean a little, seemed to work. Anyway, the search continues (lousy putter loh) I may wanna explore a plumber neck next though it does not really fit my right eye dominance... Who knows?!
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:10 pm

gingerus wrote:
Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter

 Absolutely! I was a previous owner of 2 x Scotties, 2 x Never Compromise, 1 x Ping and 1 Cleveland ... None of these come close to the Spider Blader in terms of putts on regulation! High Five to you, bro! Taylormade
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:23 pm

Yes, I also did my internet research and found opposiing views on this topic. Check out posts by a guy called PuttingDoctor on golfwrx.

Like any good citizen of GR, I acquired a bunch of putters of different design to draw my own conclusion.  ( Non-golfing spouses cannot understand why we need more than one putter).

BTW, let me know any CS zero offset putters that you might want to sell Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:33 pm

Turbo wrote:
gingerus wrote:
Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter

 Absolutely! I was a previous owner of 2 x Scotties, 2 x Never Compromise, 1 x Ping and 1 Cleveland ... None of these come close to the Spider Blader in terms of putts on regulation! High Five to you, bro! Taylormade

 argh u make me feel like changing my putter again!
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:34 pm

Turbo wrote:
gingerus wrote:
Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter

 Absolutely! I was a previous owner of 2 x Scotties, 2 x Never Compromise, 1 x Ping and 1 Cleveland ... None of these come close to the Spider Blader in terms of putts on regulation! High Five to you, bro! Taylormade

 BTW, Justin Rose clinched the US Open 2013 with the Spider Balder in his bag ... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:36 pm

garylin wrote:
Turbo wrote:
gingerus wrote:
Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter

 Absolutely! I was a previous owner of 2 x Scotties, 2 x Never Compromise, 1 x Ping and 1 Cleveland ... None of these come close to the Spider Blader in terms of putts on regulation! High Five to you, bro! Taylormade

 argh u make me feel like changing my putter again!
Bro, have you seen or tried the Spider Blader? TM Sg brought in only 150 pieces of Spider Bladers and all were sold! Left only the Spider Mallet ... You should go to GolfWRX.com to read about the ultra positive reviews on this TM latest sensation ... Taylormade
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:51 pm

Turbo wrote:
garylin wrote:
Turbo wrote:
gingerus wrote:
Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter

 Absolutely! I was a previous owner of 2 x Scotties, 2 x Never Compromise, 1 x Ping and 1 Cleveland ... None of these come close to the Spider Blader in terms of putts on regulation! High Five to you, bro! Taylormade

 argh u make me feel like changing my putter again!
Bro, have you seen or tried the Spider Blader? TM Sg brought in only 150 pieces of Spider Bladers and all were sold! Left only the Spider Mallet ... You should go to GolfWRX.com to read about the ultra positive reviews on this TM latest sensation ... Taylormade

im sure taylormade makes decent putters. but just be careful of the herd mentality. the main point of this thread is to emphasize the fact that the putter is a very personalised club, and there are therefore a number of considerations in choosing the right putter. 

the fact that someone won the US Open with a particular putter or that 150 other people have bought one, certainly isn't a key consideration.
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:08 pm

scottycollector wrote:

im sure taylormade makes decent putters. but just be careful of the herd mentality. the main point of this thread is to emphasize the fact that the putter is a very personalised club, and there are therefore a number of considerations in choosing the right putter. 

the fact that someone won the US Open with a particular putter or that 150 other people have bought one, certainly isn't a key consideration.

 Dun get me wrong ... I am not implying that one should consider the putter based on those facts mentioned by you above ... I am merely creating some noteworthy news here in case some ppl aren't aware of it ... Very Happy

To me, the brand of the putter should not be the main consideration ... Whats the point if one who invests in an expensive SC putter but cannot hole a 3 foot putt most of the time? Agree?
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:36 pm

Turbo wrote:
scottycollector wrote:

im sure taylormade makes decent putters. but just be careful of the herd mentality. the main point of this thread is to emphasize the fact that the putter is a very personalised club, and there are therefore a number of considerations in choosing the right putter. 

the fact that someone won the US Open with a particular putter or that 150 other people have bought one, certainly isn't a key consideration.

 Dun get me wrong ... I am not implying that one should consider the putter based on those facts mentioned by you above ... I am merely creating some noteworthy news here in case some ppl aren't aware of it ... Very Happy

To me, the brand of the putter should not be the main consideration ... Whats the point if one who invests in an expensive SC putter but cannot hole a 3 foot putt most of the time? Agree?
Oops, think I better stop using my SC putter then....... 

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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:44 pm

Been reading this and hope u guys would pardon my ignorance but how does dominant eye affect anything. In aiming a rifle/gun you are in line to the target but when putting you are looking downwards 90 deg away from the target. 

Say you use the aiming lines drawn on balls as a guide and point it towards the target by aiming before u address the ball. Your only aim will be to align the line on the ball square to your putter face, or if ur putter has a guideline that it is in a straight line. Does eye dominance have any effect here? Say if u aim from the address position maybe there might be an impact but if u aim before address I don't understand the impact. 

I'm quite sure I'm missing something. Hope someone can enlighten me. Thanks!!
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PostSubject: Re: The most important aspects of finding the RIGHT putter    Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:53 pm

Turbo wrote:
garylin wrote:
Turbo wrote:
gingerus wrote:
Turbo wrote:
My putting stroke is inside-square-inside ... Therefore the plumber neck putter is suitable for me ... And I like my putter to be heavy (at least 340g) ... My current fave is the TM Spider Blade putter which has a 130g grip acting as a counter weight against the putter head ... good putt

 same for me! absolutely amazing putter

 Absolutely! I was a previous owner of 2 x Scotties, 2 x Never Compromise, 1 x Ping and 1 Cleveland ... None of these come close to the Spider Blader in terms of putts on regulation! High Five to you, bro! Taylormade

 argh u make me feel like changing my putter again!
Bro, have you seen or tried the Spider Blader? TM Sg brought in only 150 pieces of Spider Bladers and all were sold! Left only the Spider Mallet ... You should go to GolfWRX.com to read about the ultra positive reviews on this TM latest sensation ... Taylormade

 The blades are with offset? I just changed my putter to the ghost tour semi mallet to be honest.. but I am dying to get a centre shaft blade putter with no offset. borrowed 1 and it felt really comfortable..

back to topic:
I am a master right eye and I am more comfortable with putter with no offset. My putting stroke is Straight-Straight-Straight. Sometimes I tend to push a little. A centre shafted no offset putter seems to work best for me at the moment..
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