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DT08
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PostSubject: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:02 am

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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:05 am

Wow, so fast ?
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:18 am

neutralgolfer wrote:
Wow, so fast ?
Anyone keen to organize a Mass Order ?
affraid affraid affraid
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:35 am

TLP wrote:
neutralgolfer wrote:
Wow, so fast ?
Anyone keen to organize a Mass Order ?
affraid affraid affraid
Anyone with experience ordering from mainland? Wonder if they have the wedges. If mass order hopefully can nego price to get near raw pricing. Margins can never get too low in China.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:55 am

OMG! I guess DGman has to say his piece ...

I wonder these BFG irons from this China website are authentic ...
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:08 am

It happens all the time. The authentic guy (think LV, Guess, Gap, Taylormade) goes to China to manufacture at a lower cost.

After getting the skills, template, know how etc etc, they just use the same method to make a few extra sets to sell in the market.

Depending on where in the chain the forger lies, the product can be 100% identical to the real stuff or 80%.

The forger may not be able to get the same steel quality or may use the same steel material left over from the previous production batch.

Ultimately, buying real at the premium gives you assurance that the product will perform exactly as it was meant to. Buying fake, you are taking a chance that it may perform what it was meant to.

For clothes and handbag, I dont really care real or fake cos the "performance" is just to carry a few stuff. But for items where performance is impt like golf, I wldnt take the risk.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:15 am

Oops..! silent
There s always a risk in any trade. Cool
Just in which views you re lookg at it n manage properly. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:40 am

Luckily there is no imitation for automobile yet ... Laughing 

I suspect a lot of branded stuff one can find in the trading portal, Qoo10 maybe fake ...
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:43 am

hkhamateur wrote:
Oops..! silent
There s always a risk in any trade. Cool
Just in which views you re lookg at it n manage properly. Wink
A set of BFG irons selling at S$390 ... Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:44 am

My guess is that since DG man just got his new stocks arrived in Singapore, the manufacturer just took the liberty to order more materials and make a few extra sets to sell.

The timing seems to gel rather nicely.

Time for law suit....these unethical china businessmen
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:58 am

Based on what was posted on the website, it is only the iron head, exclude ferrule, shaft n grip. You also need to get it installed n fitted.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:02 am

I would think imitation is the best form of flattery.

Goes to show that the BFG irons are really quality stuff so much so that there are 'replicas' coming out.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:11 am

There r so many replicas online. I wouldn't bat an eyelid when i see replicas of huge brands, but on seeing this, i felt a certain kind of anger bcos they replicated the effort and hard work of our own countrymen. It's quite disgusting. 

However like some other forumer and DGman has said before and asahi just said it too, imitation is the greatest form of flattery. 

Hope this gets sorted out.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:31 am

Imitation is the best form of flattery
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:04 pm

Both bros asahi n bear, has delivered the short message well. Very Happy
Lookg at it, I wld say BFG has make it into a successful international brand now tat others tried copying?Wink
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:13 pm

If you are one of those who buy regularly online, you would know that taobao is actually a very popular website people frequent for great deals. The catch is you have to go through an agent to order and buy.

Anyway, 390 for a set of 4-P heads sounds like a great deal to me...
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:24 pm

if you go 广东 江苏 浙江, and you know the guys inside the industry, you can buy branded clothes (Tommy for example) at crazily cheap price, ex-factory.... maybe 10 RMB per piece, maybe 10 RMB per KG!

some of the them are "grade B" products, which mean the quality can not pass the QC, but oridinary person can not spot anything wrong.

they are real product from authorized factory via UN-authorized channel.

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but you are not working in 广东 江苏 浙江. so you sitting in singapore. u are not only buying products, u r also buying service (for golf, fitting etc) and confidence in products.

it is really your call. go or do not go for it.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:29 pm

Similar thoughts with wbjia. This is what I've been told and seen, although the factories are spread all over China.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:15 pm

When I picked up my Fish Sticks, I got more than just the irons. What I got was personalized attention and fitting from DGman, with recommendations as to lie, loft etc. and ample testing with irons etc., not to mention a selection of shafts and grips.

There's more to the irons than the price. Whether or not they are legit is beyond me, but I believe that there's a lot more in value which you derive from buying them at BFG.

And, last but not least, you support a local fitter! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:21 pm

For a "fake" set, I would think the price quoted still has quite a bit of fats. imo. I wouldn't really pay that "much" for that reduction in perceived value.
Is someone going to take the plunge? Shocked 
I would like to think that these are surplus from the factory, don't think anyone would start the whole factory plant process to make these from scratch. 
However, like others have mentioned. Maybe these are the ones that didn't pass the stringent QC checks, i.e. not soft enough, not buttery enough. I wouldn't be too surprise if they send 2 pieces of 7i in the set.
Anyways as the saying goes, nothing ventured, nothing gained. :swing:TGIF, have a good golfing weekend.


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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:24 pm

angyongshen wrote:
For a "fake" set, I would think the price quoted still has quite a bit of fats. imo. I wouldn't really pay that "much" for that reduction in perceived value.
Is someone going to take the plunge? Shocked 
I would like to think that these are surplus from the factory, don't think anyone would start the whole factory plant process to make these from scratch. 
However, like others have mentioned. Maybe these are the ones that didn't pass the stringent QC checks, i.e. not soft enough, not buttery enough. I wouldn't be too surprise if they send 2 pieces of 7i in the set.
Anyways as the saying goings, nothing ventured, nothing gained. :swing:TGIF, have a good golfing weekend.
i dont know what you based on if fake.what if it is real?
by the way, if i am the one doing fake clubs, i will copy honma 5 star rather than this.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:01 pm

This looks like extra pieces being offloaded. 
Sadly, that's how business ethics can go in China.

In spite of the perceived setback,
one way is to serialize the genuine sets with registration and move on.
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:35 pm

If the manufacturers wanna manufacture their stuff in China in order to reduce production cost, this is the sort of risk they have to face ... Many years ago, one of my pals brought back a TM R9 Driver head which is 100% genuine from China and have it shafted locally ... The head he bought was only S$50 and the shaft he bought locally was more than S$300 ...

Therefore, if one is lucky and know the "backdoor" sources, he/she can actually get real stuff at a fraction of the retail price ... We have to accept that this is China IP policy ... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:39 pm

Unfortunately, that's likely the case. For every 100 original sets which are produced, I'm sure an additional 20 are produced in the background for profiteering purposes.

It's inevitable. With China, everything goes. But whether or not you want to take a risk on something which is potentially dubious, that's your call.

As I mentioned, there's value in paying more and getting it from a reliable and legit source.

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PostSubject: Re: post deleted   Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:49 pm

Also maybe the distributor can consider getting pre finished product from the supplier and finish it here, repackage, provide customization, i.e. stamping of initials, hologram, different paintfills, leather carrying case, etc. These will also reduce the chances of the product flowing back to the market and at the same time provide a real personalized touch which is way cool.
Then again I am only looking from the outside, consumer perspective, which is nice to have, but logistically it will be much more work than being a keyboard warrior like me. hurrah. 
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