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PostSubject: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:17 pm

Hi All,

Am new to this forum, new to golf too actually. 

Am currently using the 690 MBs (from my FIL) and it's been a great set of irons so far, but I am looking at a slightly more forgiving set, and will be looking to get a set of AP2s. 

Looking between the 712s (second hand) vs the 714s (first hand, but if second hand also dont mind). Difference in pricing can be quite substantial, anyone with experience on both able to share if the 714s are worth getting over the 712s, considering the price difference?

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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:23 pm

Did a fitting with Gene (Titleist) at Sentosa and had the opportunity to compare the difference in feel between the 712 and 714 AP2s as well as in terms of solid numbers from the results on trackman.

The results were quite significant for me, and was what led me to make the purchase of the 714s over the 712s despite the price premium. Feel wise, 714 AP2 feels softer, which Gene attributed to the redesigned medallion in the cavity. The satin clubface over the chrome of the 712s also sets it apart quite nicely from the older model. 

In terms of numbers, Gene had me hit quite a number of shots with both and after throwing the outliers away to get a more accurate picture, the 714s were 5-8 yards (half a club) further with around the same clubhead speed. So all in all, the 714s are definitely a better club and Titleist did indeed use the 2 years between the 712s and 714s to do some re-engineering of the AP2s to get the improvements the 714s are showing. 

Hope this helps Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:52 pm

I agree on the softer feeling
I never tried 712 but was on 710 AP2 and now 714 AP2
the feel is softer and I would say more forgiving
if you like to shape your ball flight, I think 714 allows you to do that easily
But in terms of distance I really can't tell 7 iron about 135 to 140 there about

I believe if you are on MB, and now trying the AP2, you will surely feel the difference case MB is totally not forgiving. but having said all these, it's my own opinion so best is go to their demo day and try it out
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:14 pm

HitSoft wrote:
...... both and after throwing the outliers away to get a more accurate picture, the 714s were 5-8 yards (half a club) further with around the same clubhead speed. So all in all, the 714s are definitely a better club and Titleist did indeed use the 2 years between the 712s and 714s to do some re-engineering of the AP2s to get the improvements the 714s are showing. 

Did the Titty folks strengthen the loft of the 714 irons by a few degrees versus the 712 irons?

You're comparing what irons which you experience half a club longer?
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:50 pm

@turbo: fitting was based on the 6 iron and PW. If I'm not mistaken loft has been strengthened by 1 degree going into the 714 series. Gene mentioned that it was to accommodate the new CG position of the 714 AP2s.

And if the distance increase still sounds funky to you, shaft was the same during fitting for both series. Cheers Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:55 pm

thats good. most important is u like the club n feel good with the club
ap2 wont go wrong be it 712 or 714

vinc golf at far east got a brand new set of 712 giving very good price
clear stock I think
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:14 pm

I saw a 714 AP2 at tradehub21 on different colors of the Niion grip per iron, very funky. Totally forgot to give them a swing and to ask e price before leaving. Burh..
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:22 pm

Sorry TS, hijack ur thread - can anyone pls share the difference btw AP1 of 712 vs 714? thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:29 pm

thanks all!

I was at Vinc Golf yesterday, didn't ask about the 712s but the 714s, and was offered a pretty attractive price for it.

I was doing some research around and the distance between the 712s and 714s were mentioned to be 1-2 yards difference, and that some were hitting 180-190 on 712s with 7i. that's far enough for me (assuming i can hit 80% of that). 

in terms of the irons being forgiving, i am looking for a softer set too, without sacrificing too much on flight distance as compared to MBs...

I am not able to PM yet, if you have a set to let go, text me at 92709four60, will reply much faster there!
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:39 pm

wow Bro 7i hit180 to 190 yards or meter
I only saw that on tv when the pro hit it but its yards
anyway all the best to your hunting of your new clubs

I think creative golf near chinatown got an ap2 714 but the last time I ask him he wants 950 which is abit steep in my own opinion
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:58 pm

Does anyone has experience with AP2 vs Mizzy MP53 or 54 in terms of softness?
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:44 am

thanks for all the replies so far!
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:45 pm

kkhh1978 wrote:
wow Bro 7i hit180 to 190 yards or meter
I only saw that on tv when the pro hit it but its yards
anyway all the best to your hunting of your new clubs

I think creative golf near chinatown got an ap2 714 but the last time I ask him he wants 950 which is abit steep in my own opinion

Think that already sold.

Btw, how much Vinc Golf is selling 714 AP2?
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:02 am

Hi,

anyone can inform me the right place to buy this AP2 (712 or 714) with a good price? 

Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:52 pm

Hi mrunix,

You intend to get a new set?



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PostSubject: Re: 712s vs 714s   Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:33 pm

I've owned 712s and now I'm playing 714s... For me they are very much alike, obvious difference being the way it goes through the turf, and better looking top line.
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