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Have you been to any incompetent fitter recently?
Yes
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No
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TDO
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:10 pm

superputt wrote:
Take it easy lah.... we are just typing on the net (we can't even see the face if you are pissed or not).  Everybody has their opinion.  I'm not saying you are wrong or right.  

I do remember you mentioned about a Callaway Diablo driver dented in the sole.   I've seen your posts more frequently than other members in this forum.  I'm sorry too if that's offending to yoI see.

That driver is the only dented club I have in my bag. And I love it despite it  being dented. I bought it from a bro in this forum last year ( I think). It is still serving me very well. But rest assured, my irons though old are not dented. Just that I can no longer hit them and depend very much on my woods nowadays. In fact I have the same number of woods in my bag as my irons. Sad


And don't worry bro. I am not pissed. It's healthy exchange of views. I have already reach this age (I don't falsify my age) to be bothered with anger as it is harmful to  my health.


But I take it as a compliment that you take notice of my posts more frequently than others. Maybe you can share why my posts interest you. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:14 pm

Actually is there a need to shame a fitter if you deem he/she is incompetent? They are also trying to make a living with it. If you are think they are incompetent just look for someone else you are comfortable with.

As for comparison with pros like rory, tiger or phil, I think they are capable of using all clubs even off the shelves. Remember KJ Choi went to golfsmith and bought a set of irons for a tournament and still make cut.


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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:15 pm

enwee wrote:
Actually is there a need to shame a fitter if you deem he/she is incompetent? They are also trying to make a living with it. If you are think they are incompetent just look for someone else you are comfortable with.

Totally agree with you bro. As long as he is not Jover Chew from Sim Lim Square. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:05 pm

Interesting indeed... Just as how everyone here has different swings, preferences and sizes I also have my own view. Fitting can be as good as the time you have it done. Let me explain further:

-If you can reproduce consistent swing day in and day out, then fitting can help further by complimenting limitation of your equipment
-If you are not standard size whether it's height, arm/leg length, fitting can also help
-Sometimes you will have fitters giving you advise on your swing... If you don't make it yours, then a week after having your clubs fitted everything might turn sour

By all means fitting a club is not a waste when you have it done by someone with experience, qualifications, etc.. However it can also effect your game in a negative way if you have it done by someone without the right level of skills. In oder for this to happen, you also have to have certain level of knowledge around what it means to have the fitted clubs and how it's done. You're doing the absolutely right thing by posting and sharing here. At the same time, you have to understand all of us here has different taste and level of understanding.

I used to use custom fit clubs when I was a scratch player. Nowadays I buy clubs off the shelf but customized with particular types of shafts and grips also ensuring the swing weight it kept intact. I know what I want and need. My previous fitting session has given me a lot of knowledge around fitting.

Some people need taylor made suits where most people can find something they look good in by shopping bespoke. 

Again it's personal preference and what the players want, instead of what they may need. i.e. honing themselves to be consistent and better players.

Just my two cents. Smile


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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:06 pm

TDO wrote:
enwee wrote:
Actually is there a need to shame a fitter if you deem he/she is incompetent? They are also trying to make a living with it. If you are think they are incompetent just look for someone else you are comfortable with.

Totally agree with you bro. As long as he is not Jover Chew from Sim Lim Square. Very Happy

Whahaha...Razz Razz
Gd one bro TDO. Wink
Becareful otherise yr shafts he/she (fitter) will cut into small pcs like coins and return you if he/she get offended. Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:37 pm

I don't think our golfing fraternity will have such scumbags (I pray and  hope). Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:04 pm

enwee wrote:
Actually is there a need to shame a fitter if you deem he/she is incompetent? They are also trying to make a living with it. If you are think they are incompetent just look for someone else you are comfortable with.

As for comparison with pros like rory, tiger or phil, I think they are capable of using all clubs even off the shelves. Remember KJ Choi went to golfsmith and bought a set of irons for a tournament and still make cut.

KJ Choi is a club ho.... he switched clubs every 3 months.  Everytime I see his WITB, he has all different clubs.   I've seen he used Miura then Ping then Callaway.  It's too costly to get custom fitted clubs every 3 months.

Well most pros are capable to use off the shelves clubs.  The question is how long are they gonna use it?  First they won't like the swing weight, because most of them prefer heavier swing weight (Tiger prefers D4).  And second, have you seen an X-stiff shaft available anywhere in a pro shop?
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:14 pm

Hmmm actually just wanted to discuss if you agree with the article in the publication.
i.e.
No impact tape or lie marker/board and still very competent
Doesn't just pass you any clubs in his store and ask you to try before letting your swing your own clubs
Has a launch monitor and "fitting" took less than 30mins. But still you feel meets your expectation.

Please refrain from naming and shame as its not the purpose.  

*Actually i just thought it was a bit harsh putting it on print, using the word "incompetent" in a sweeping statement. 

TGIF What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:11 pm

Not using an impact tape does not necessarily make a fitter a poor one.

Golf clubs fitting has evolved much over the past few years than to just relying on archaic method like impact tape to determine strike consistency.

There are more advanced technological means to do so i.e trackman, flightscope
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:26 pm

http://www.golfwrx.com/261559/wishon-what-length-should-your-golf-clubs-be/

At least this article is a little more diplomatic. "not so good fitter" ROFL
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:43 am

Question for the high hands - how consistent should one's swing be for fitting to be effective?

Sometimes I feel that every swing I make in a round of golf is different!
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:42 pm

jmchan wrote:
Question for the high hands - how consistent should one's swing be for fitting to be effective?

Sometimes I feel that every swing I make in a round of golf is different!
Just a basic simple swing with some consistency. No heavy chopping, slicing, hooking or scooping.
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:46 am

lousyswinger wrote:
http://www.golfwrx.com/261559/wishon-what-length-should-your-golf-clubs-be/

At least this article is a little more diplomatic. "not so good fitter" ROFL


""Following is a compilation of additional points about fitting length that we teach to clubfitters to help them become more and more proficient.

  • Not more than 10 percent of all men should ever try to play with a driver length that is longer than 44 inches.

  • Most average male golfers should consider a driver length of 43 inches to 43.5 inches.

  • Virtually no women golfers should try to use a driver length longer than 43 inches, most women should use a driver length shorter than 43 inches.

  • When in doubt, err on the side of shorter length for the driver.""



Read more at http://www.golfwrx.com/261559/wishon-what-length-should-your-golf-clubs-be/#kKglJJkcTmGdymBL.99





I feel vindicated
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:28 pm

So the equipment is ill fitted if I can't play well after custom fittings? That's interesting. Our swing isn't as consistent as the pros, so it doesn't mean that we will have the most perfect fit. Too bad we can't fit a set of clubs that can change its characteristics based on that particular swing.  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:00 pm

nutty88 wrote:
So the equipment is ill fitted if I can't play well after custom fittings? That's interesting. Our swing isn't as consistent as the pros, so it doesn't mean that we will have the most perfect fit. Too bad we can't fit a set of clubs that can change its characteristics based on that particular swing.  Laughing
I smell a new equipment venture...  Cool
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PostSubject: Re: How to spot an incompetent fitter?   Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:06 am

reallys wrote:
nutty88 wrote:
So the equipment is ill fitted if I can't play well after custom fittings? That's interesting. Our swing isn't as consistent as the pros, so it doesn't mean that we will have the most perfect fit. Too bad we can't fit a set of clubs that can change its characteristics based on that particular swing.  Laughing
I smell a new equipment venture...  Cool

If only that can be done!
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