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watermyforrest
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 |  Subject: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie?  Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:27 pm | |
| Had a game at MBGC recently and realised that all of my bad shots came from hitting at elevation. Those undulating fairways successfully killed my swing.
Tried all methods like moving the ball positions and center of gravity but only 50% success rate.
Any GRians faced and overcame this problem? Pls share how and where do you train these shots. |
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mUAr_cHEe
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:32 pm | |
| dropping another ball and hit again. that is what I do to train. |
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watermyforrest
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:40 pm | |
| Hmmm... OJT (On the Job Training). Provided flight mate and marshals not rushing, i might try this. Thanks. |
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golf_snowman
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:43 pm | |
| Hi,
I have come across one training material about hitting on undulating lies (sorry couldn't rememeber which one) and the key point is to try to ensure setup or address are perpendicular to the lie..that to say, if it's a up slope, (if you are a right hander) you can feel more weight on your right leg and relatively setting up ur club to be perpendicular to the up slope ground, and you will find your body slightly tilted and on parallel to up slope lie.
the same theory apply to downslope as well.
there are mention of club selection as well, but sorry, i couldn't remember much in detail.
snowman[left] |
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daveaha
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:59 pm | |
| | mUAr_cHEe wrote: | | dropping another ball and hit again. that is what I do to train. |
At Marina Bay ? Almost impossible... |
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hoelwill
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:55 pm | |
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weesern
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| how many mulligan do they allow? |
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Birdman
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:32 pm | |
| | golf_snowman wrote: | Hi,
I have come across one training material about hitting on undulating lies (sorry couldn't rememeber which one) and the key point is to try to ensure setup or address are perpendicular to the lie..that to say, if it's a up slope, (if you are a right hander) you can feel more weight on your right leg and relatively setting up ur club to be perpendicular to the up slope ground, and you will find your body slightly tilted and on parallel to up slope lie.
the same theory apply to downslope as well.
there are mention of club selection as well, but sorry, i couldn't remember much in detail.
snowman[left] |
From what I recall, it is as what golf snowman said, align your stance such that you are always perpendicular to the slope with the ball position further back to ensure you catch the ball first. Minimal head movement is very important. Cut back on the backswing and don't muscle the shot. Maintain tempo and rhythm while keeping the lower body quiet for good balance. Upslope, compensate your aim for a draw shot and downslope compensate for fade. The previous tip also applies to ball above your feet and ball below your feet. For upslope, club up one more, and downslope club down one. The rest is practice.
And there really isn't any proper place in Singapore to practice from an uneven lie. The best way is to practice such shots during a round. There is no better simulation of course conditions than the real thing. Of course I say this with due consideration to others on the course. Should only be done on a quiet course with no visible flights behind or in front of you, which is probably during a weekday (best is Monday) on a JB course. |
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tronos
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:31 pm | |
| Turf City...some of the bays are on sloping grounds...not so severe as MBGC course but its sloping and its grass (mostly grass anyway.... dont use ur black nickel/raw wedge there, it will wear all the coating/scratch in only one session) |
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mUAr_cHEe
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:11 pm | |
| shorthitter... do u still have that training tool for the uneven lie? |
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watermyforrest
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:12 pm | |
| @birdman & golf-snowman: these are the 50%-rate-of-success-shots that i mentioned earlier. I suppose this is due to lack of practice
@tronos: thanks, i will try to visit there one of these days. |
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Birdman
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:47 pm | |
| Watermyforest, that's why balance, tempo, rhythm, and staying down on the shot is all important. Muscling the ball from such a lie is also definitely not an option. Direction and good contact is more important than distance here. |
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chemicalpro
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:55 pm | |
| Toa Payoh Golf Range 2nd Level.
The damn place slopes from the back to the front.
Good for training slight downhill lies. |
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Birdman
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:01 pm | |
| | chemicalpro wrote: | Toa Payoh Golf Range 2nd Level.
The damn place slopes from the back to the front.
Good for training slight downhill lies. |
Same with Green Fairways top level. Was wondering why at first I was topping all my balls from driver down to wedge. Took me awhile to adjust, it was good training for keeping the head down and extension through the ball. Found I had better contact when I went for a game after that, sadly, the good contact was only temporary.
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and68low
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| | Subject: Re: How and where to train hitting from uneven lie? Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:09 pm | |
| | Birdman wrote: | | golf_snowman wrote: | Hi,
I have come across one training material about hitting on undulating lies (sorry couldn't rememeber which one) and the key point is to try to ensure setup or address are perpendicular to the lie..that to say, if it's a up slope, (if you are a right hander) you can feel more weight on your right leg and relatively setting up ur club to be perpendicular to the up slope ground, and you will find your body slightly tilted and on parallel to up slope lie.
the same theory apply to downslope as well.
there are mention of club selection as well, but sorry, i couldn't remember much in detail.
snowman[left] |
From what I recall, it is as what golf snowman said, align your stance such that you are always perpendicular to the slope with the ball position further back to ensure you catch the ball first. Minimal head movement is very important. Cut back on the backswing and don't muscle the shot. Maintain tempo and rhythm while keeping the lower body quiet for good balance. Upslope, compensate your aim for a draw shot and downslope compensate for fade. The previous tip also applies to ball above your feet and ball below your feet. For upslope, club up one more, and downslope club down one. The rest is practice.
And there really isn't any proper place in Singapore to practice from an uneven lie. The best way is to practice such shots during a round. There is no better simulation of course conditions than the real thing. Of course I say this with due consideration to others on the course. Should only be done on a quiet course with no visible flights behind or in front of you, which is probably during a weekday (best is Monday) on a JB course. |
Birdman, Thanks for the tip, do we need to choke down on our grip or change the face angle of our club or do a open stance or close stance or posture be more upright or bend more for those uphill , downhill, ball below and ball above feet ????? Please enlighten us, Thanks |
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