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ironhead
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PostSubject: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:50 pm

this is not an uncommon situtation.
both balls not touching the lines but swings are impeded by the stakes on each side n u r right handed golfer.
what options are available to you??
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:53 pm

Most courses you are able to remove the OB and Hazard sticks Smile
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:23 pm

in tournament case...what would be the proper action then ?
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:31 pm

Dun think you are allowed to remove the markers
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:01 pm

A> Out of Bounds (White stakes):

see definitition of Out of Bounds, the stakes ae not obstructions and deem to be fixed. ie. you are not permitted to remove the stakes, and not entitled to any free relief. so it is hard luck in this case. you play the ball as it lies or declare it unplayable (ie proceed under penalty drop - rule 27

B> Hazard stakes (in this case the red stakes)

see definition of Lateral Water Hazards, the stakes are obstructions ie you could remove the stakes to play your next shot. However, most course in Singapore define the red stakes (as well as yellow stakes) as immovable obstruction. in this case, you could take relief without penalty to drop your ball within one club length of the nearest point of relief.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:06 pm

The rule for unplayable shall be rule 28 (not rule 27)
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:30 pm

Alan wrote:
A> Out of Bounds (White stakes):

see definitition of Out of Bounds, the stakes ae not obstructions and deem to be fixed. ie. you are not permitted t........................es) as immovable obstruction. in this case, you could take relief without penalty to drop your ball within one club length of the nearest point of relief.

well said cheers cheers

unless overridden by a local rule,

White stake > can NOT be removed
Yellow/Red Stakes > can be removed

Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:15 pm

What about the distance markers which some courses plant as stakes too? Are they removable or not?

A very common scenario too.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:01 pm

Distance markers are movable obstruction (as per rules of golf). However, in most Singapore golf courses, the local rules define the distance makers as immovable obstructions (the local rules are printed on the back of the score cards, read them before you start your round)
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:44 am

Alan: Wah laueee, U R a walking golf encyclopedia of knowledge, venerable laoshi!

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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:47 am

Thank you.

Would be pleased to help in golf rules.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:52 am

Alan is a certified referee fyi

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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:10 pm

Thank you.

My main focus is still in golf teaching at Toa Payoh (I am a Class A member of Singapore PGA). and I am pleased to help in the area of golf rules whenever possible
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do if you find your ball like this?   Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:35 pm

PLAY AS IT LIES or declare UNPLAYABLE and take penalty drop
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