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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 12:50 am

you get free swing analysis.
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 1:03 am

darenlim wrote:
you get free swing analysis.
Free Win Win Golf Bag lah!!!
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 7:43 am

IMHO ideally it would be all the same height as pros are like robots hehehehe... but I think coupled with the grooves which helps to produce higher spin rate on the ball, SW would be higher (unless of course it is a controlled shots).
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 8:23 am

S70B wrote:
Trackman newsletter page 5: Same height.
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You my friend, are one of the few ppl I know who read that stuff and dun Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 8:40 am

same height ...
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 9:00 am

The driver looks higher.... but S70B already gave the answer from trackman
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 9:26 am

now in case you are wondering whats the relevance to spin rate to fitting, its coming...

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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 9:52 am

keep it coming, master..keep it coming...keke
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 10:08 am

Watching this thread closely..... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 2:27 pm

Now that we understand where spin comes from lets determine where excessive or inadequate spin comes from.

1. An off-centre hit increase sidespin and adds to spin rate.
2. A thin shot or a fat shot reduce or increase spin rate.
3. A downward or upward AOA changes the launch angle and will also increase or reduce spin rate.

So you can see the main culprit for excessive or inadequate spin rate for most social golfers is the swing itself.

Part One Question

My question to those who do not have the most consistency of swing is “What is the best remedy to hitting the sweet spot?” A swing coach or a new driver? The answer is pretty obvious hor.

Part Two Question

Assuming the golfer is pretty competent and now requires a better driver to ensure that he or she gain better advantage, so what should they look for?

Lets set 2 scenarios to think about…..

1. Golfer cannot launch the ball effectively. The Driver maximum height is about half his 7-iron height. Lots of roll but no control. 90 mph club head speed and 160 metres carry.

2. Golfer launches the ball high. 100 swing speed mph and only 200 metres total distance.

Lets have your views for the 2 scenarios.

Part Three Question

Now if you have to put a percentage to getting the right formula for a better driving statistic, which do you think are the most important for a reasonably competent golfer (the total of the following should be 100%):

1. Maintaining a positive composure ( %)
2. Getting the right driver head ( %)
3. Getting the right shaft ( %)
4. Getting the right ball ( %)
5. Getting the right shoes ( %)
6. Getting the right gloves ( %)
7. Getting the right bag ( %)
8. Others, pls specify_________________ ( %)

I will leave it to the forum members to partake in this exercise of finding the answer(s) but it sure looks like fun.

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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 2:53 pm

Dem chim
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Wed May 26, 2010 3:14 pm

-80% of the time ball will climb high and straight,then near the peak gently turn right and further right at the end (OB)
-'good' flight is a straight boring flight (not as high as above) maybe 1-2 drives per game only), estimate (from distance left to hole) 210-220m (strong 7 iron ~130-135m)
- if i hit near the top of the face, the ball will go very high and straight (~150m)...using Sumo 5900..shallow face...sometime got problems when tee too high.

Contact with the ball is not my problem, most of the slices are within the center area of the face (on the sound alone, sounded like a good drive)

conclusion = buy new driver?

current gamer is 8.5 Sumo 5900, Aldila NV55-S (tip 1/4 inch) 44.5 inch
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Thu May 27, 2010 12:13 am

1. Maintaining a positive composure ( %)
2. Getting the right driver head ( 25%)
3. Getting the right shaft ( 25%)
4. Getting the right ball ( %)
5. Getting the right shoes ( %)
6. Getting the right gloves ( %)
7. Getting the right bag ( %)
8. Others, pls specify consistent & proper swing ( 50%)

Me thinks it's a 50-50 b/w the song and the singer. And both must complement each other, not an either/or thingy.

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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Thu May 27, 2010 12:20 am

Part One Question

My question to those who do not have the most consistency of swing is “What is the best remedy to hitting the sweet spot?” A swing coach or a new driver? The answer is pretty obvious hor.

Swing Coach


Part Two Question

Assuming the golfer is pretty competent and now requires a better driver to ensure that he or she gain better advantage, so what should they look for?

Lets set 2 scenarios to think about…..

1. Golfer cannot launch the ball effectively. The Driver maximum height is about half his 7-iron height. Lots of roll but no control. 90 mph club head speed and 160 metres carry.
higher lofted driver 10.5 with a Reg/Firm Shaft with high launch characteristics

2. Golfer launches the ball high. 100 swing speed mph and only 200 metres total distance.
Stiff shaft with firmer tip and mid launch characteristics
Lets have your views for the 2 scenarios.

Part Three Question

Now if you have to put a percentage to getting the right formula for a better driving statistic, which do you think are the most important for a reasonably competent golfer (the total of the following should be 100%):

1. Maintaining a positive composure ( 40%)
2. Getting the right driver head ( 10%)
3. Getting the right shaft ( 20%)
4. Getting the right ball ( 20%)
5. Getting the right shoes ( 5%)
6. Getting the right gloves ( 5%)
7. Getting the right bag ( %)
8. Others, pls specify_________________ ( %)

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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Thu May 27, 2010 12:32 am

1. Golfer cannot launch the ball effectively.
Get a higher lofted driver with deep face.

2. Golfer launches the ball high. 100 swing speed mph and only 200 metres total distance.
Lower his tee height, ball positioning and for shaft, mid kick pt.
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Thu May 27, 2010 11:44 am

in my opinion for Part 3.

The following plays a part :-

1. right Driver Head
2. right Shaft
3. right Ball
4. Consistent swing
5. Maintaining a positive composure.
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Thu May 27, 2010 7:12 pm

Part One Question

My question to those who do not have the most consistency of swing is “What is the best remedy to hitting the sweet spot?” A swing coach or a new driver? The answer is pretty obvious hor.
- Depends on the current driver the guy is using. No point for a beginner going to a coach with a 9.5 909D3 whiteboard 73-S Driver and AP2 irons with Project X 6.5 so answer is swing coach AND new driver.


Part Two Question

Assuming the golfer is pretty competent and now requires a better driver to ensure that he or she gain better advantage, so what should they look for?

Lets set 2 scenarios to think about…..

1. Golfer cannot launch the ball effectively. The Driver maximum height is about half his 7-iron height. Lots of roll but no control. 90 mph club head speed and 160 metres carry.
- for equip, higher Driver loft (10.5), closed face driver, especially if using mid/low kick point, higher torque, active tip shaft like the Aldila NVS), maybe lighter weight shaft say 55g ,

2. Golfer launches the ball high. 100 swing speed mph and only 200 metres total distance.
-for equip, low spin head (eg 9015D) , High/mid kick point shaft, stiff tip, maybe even heavier shaft say 75g.

better still get the spin rate and launch angle and work from there cause no idea of the person swing

for technique...no idea...

Lets have your views for the 2 scenarios.

Part Three Question

Now if you have to put a percentage to getting the right formula for a better driving statistic, which do you think are the most important for a reasonably competent golfer (the total of the following should be 100%):

1. Maintaining a positive composure (20 %)
2. Getting the right driver head ( 20%)
3. Getting the right shaft ( 40%)
4. Getting the right ball ( 5%)
5. Getting the right shoes ( 5%)
6. Getting the right gloves ( 5%)
7. Getting the right bag ( 0%)
8. Others, clothing ( 5%)
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Fri May 28, 2010 9:56 am

interesting answers and there are some potential club fitters here who have posted their answers...

asahi, you got to spend more time in the Den and less in the other den... Smile

i am sure there are more views but some of you guys are getting to understand some of the principle of proper fitting.

btw had a round with Yarra and gang on arrival yesterday...playing a mountain course on saturday and its shop visiting today.

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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Fri May 28, 2010 11:09 am

DGman wrote:
btw had a round with Yarra and gang on arrival yesterday...playing a mountain course on saturday and its shop visiting today.

DGman

Any plans on coming up to HCMC???
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Fri May 28, 2010 1:36 pm

DGman wrote:
interesting answers and there are some potential club fitters here who have posted their answers...

asahi, you got to spend more time in the Den and less in the other den... Smile

i am sure there are more views but some of you guys are getting to understand some of the principle of proper fitting.

btw had a round with Yarra and gang on arrival yesterday...playing a mountain course on saturday and its shop visiting today.

DGman

That'd be nice....but time is just a rarity for me now. hiaz......
Lots to learn for me..... Razz
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PostSubject: Re: lets talk Spin   Fri May 28, 2010 1:54 pm

DGman wrote:
its shop visiting today.DGman

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