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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:20 pm

Let's say my objective on the range is to become a better ballstriker, then training with a blade will force me to be more precise. There is a caveat here, since sound mechanics through coaching is a much better idea.

On the course, my objective is to score low, using blades when I'm not already striking the ball pure would just hurt my scoring. There are more differences between a blade and cavity back than just feedback.There is just too much talk about getting better feedback from blades and how there's nothing in the world like the buttery smooth feeling of puring a blade.

Blades have a higher CG than cavity backs, it takes more speed and the correct angle of attack to launch a blade the optimum height and distance. The average LPGA player has more swing speed than most male amateurs, how many do you see using blades? With 160 metres left to the pin on a downhill lie to an elevated green, Give me a cavity back please!

The relative instability of a blade versus a cavity back is another factor, it leads to a higher dispersion rate. Ball below or above my feet, a blade will just exacerbate the resulting fade or draw of such lies.

So how am I to achieve my objective of scoring low with a set of blades on the course when I'm not already striping them?
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:39 pm

Radical suggestion...to increase feedback, maybe should try hand massage and medicure....the roughness of our palms sometimes prohibits the feel to translate to our senses.....
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:02 pm

Chim...
Dunno what phrases like "correct angle of attack to launch a blade the optimum height and distance" mean
or
What is optimum height and distance and how to tell wtf the angle of attack/launch is?
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I cannot tell what is "buttery smooth feeling of puring a blade" means either.

All I know is that off centre and centre hits on my blades can be as much as 2 club length difference, compared to my other set. If you have enough skill you can "stripe/shape/score" with either.

Hit whatever pleases your eye.. if at address, I don't like the shape of the club I'm seeing, then less confidence usually equals to crappy results. albino
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:06 pm

TSS.... wise words....


almost want to call u master... but untill i saw some fb pics... then i was shaking my head...
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:29 pm

Hahaha.... The Secret Squirrel pan jee sek lo fu.

He who has digested Homer Kelly's Golfing Machine as if it were a book of nursery rhymes claims ignorance.

Excuse me.... ahem.... Digested, absorbed and understood, discarded, then with a clear mind, plays Zen golf.

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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:10 pm

and68low wrote:
FIdO wrote:
yup.i agree.cavity back are good for starters.... but a swap to blades are advisable when an ideal & proper swing has been shaped & cultivated..blades forces/demands you to hit a perfect shot everytime...a miss hit will be obvious..more focus needed.i like blades..improves my swing.would recommend to those who like challenges. Very Happy


Not a sound recommendation at all ! You mean using cavity back irons need less focus and using blades will improve your swing ???

I do believe in free speech but In this forum there are many beginners and enthusiast here, so a little more care is needed before pouring out your "poison"(meaning of Poison - good stuffs or equipement)

Peace! no malice or "suan" intended.....

p.s local top Pro Lam Chee Beng uses a cavity back irons too! Many top US and European players uses Ap 2 and TM R9 tp, all are cavity back irons too. They
did not change to blades to improve their swing or increase focus....

haha..apologies..should have been clearer in my opinions... not saying that cavity backs are totally for beginners..pros do use it too.. it is much easier to get the ball up for those whose just started..and yes it too needs focus ..if not how to hit the ball properly right? anyways theres no restrictions if anyone wants to get their hands on blades..by all means.. challenge yourself.. but dont challenge others...hahaha.
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:19 pm

ok.personally i feel that ived improve my game when i swap to blades(a few of my kakis also)...it requires me too hit it on the sweetspot to get the ideal distance and trajectory..if not its just sloppy shot..and also forces myself to practice even more....just sharing my experience here..might not be applicable to everyone...but you can try though..thanks guys for your feedbacks...paiseh* for any offensive or unacceptable views.cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:29 pm

Guys, the choice of blade vs cavity back is not cut and dried. You go with what works for you. I typically play blades as I prefer clubs with little or no offset and a thin topline. I don't have a problem of getting the ball up in the air, yet given a choice, I have no issues playing a set of Mizuno MP62, or the Nike VR Cavity/Combo as they feel good, are well balanced, and have a thin top line with little offset.

Just because one is a beginner does not mean that he/she should use cavity backs. As much as club forgiveness is important, a beginner who is committed to develop good ball striking skills and is prepared to invest time and effort into developing a mechanically sound and consistent swing will have no issues playing blades well in a matter of months. On the other hand, I have seen mid-handicappers playing beginner iron sets with a funky swing and wondering why they cannot improve - the same guys who have gotten away thus far using a chipper.
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:04 pm

Ghoonk, wat putter r u using? blade or mallet??
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:21 pm

Hahahhaa... this thread is so funny.. maybe should have a blade against cavity irons game... DGman, make it happen...
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:31 pm

Hmm....should term it properly....blade iron vs cavity backs lest some poor soul draws out katana instead of kajiki for the showdown Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:35 pm

asahi wrote:
Hmm....should term it properly....blade iron vs cavity backs lest some poor soul draws out katana instead of kajiki for the showdown Razz

Bro.. do not understand your joke... sorry....
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:37 pm

katana = a type of japanese sword
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:39 pm

weesern wrote:
katana = a type of japanese sword

Still do not understand the joke.......
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:46 pm

weesern wrote:
Ghoonk, wat putter r u using? blade or mallet??

Blade. I have two acushnet titleist bulls eyes and a Scotty Cameron American classics III putter

I also have a taylormade monza corza tour issued center shafted putter with zero offset that works well for me

And a taylormade Kia ma daytona rossa that behaves badly in my hands
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:48 pm

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weesern wrote:
Ghoonk, wat putter r u using? blade or mallet??

Blade. I have two acushnet titleist bulls eyes and a Scotty Cameron American classics III putter

I also have a taylormade monza corza tour issued center shafted putter with zero offset that works well for me

And a taylormade Kia ma daytona rossa that behaves badly in my hands



GULP !!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:52 pm

okay, i lied. I have three bullseye putters, not two. one in Singapore, two are here

I also have a Ping PAL4 and a Zing putter, both beryllium copper, from my dad, still with the stickers from Isetan from 25 years ago, practically brand new Smile Won't be using them any time soon, and never used them at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:55 pm

maybe tat is y u using blade irons... u prefer these clubs that offer lesser assistance
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:04 pm

ghoonk wrote:
okay, i lied. I have three bullseye putters, not two. one in Singapore, two are here

I also have a Ping PAL4 and a Zing putter, both beryllium copper, from my dad, still with the stickers from Isetan from 25 years ago, practically brand new Smile Won't be using them any time soon, and never used them at all.

Stretcher *faint*
Hats off to you bro!
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:10 pm

not less assistance, just less offset.

you guys keep thinking that blade irons are hard to hit. I'm telling you that it's not true. Build a sound swing and you can hit with anything. If you're playing golf with the mentality of trying to play well while getting away with a swing that looks like Charles Barkley's, you're deceiving yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:18 pm

asahi wrote:
ghoonk wrote:
okay, i lied. I have three bullseye putters, not two. one in Singapore, two are here

I also have a Ping PAL4 and a Zing putter, both beryllium copper, from my dad, still with the stickers from Isetan from 25 years ago, practically brand new Smile Won't be using them any time soon, and never used them at all.

Stretcher *faint*
Hats off to you bro!

erm. 9 drivers here in Dubai, another 3 in Singapore. 7 or 8 fairway woods, and 8 or 9 sets of irons. 52/56/60 wedge sets in Nike VR, Cleveland CG10, Miura Black, Titleist Spin Milled Oil Can, TaylorMade Z-TP, Taylormade RAC Black Y-cutters (tour, 2 sets), and 54/58 wedges for Miura Black wedges, and a spare 56 Nike VR sitting around somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:33 pm

I am still waiting for your Adams driver sale Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:05 am

ghoonk wrote:
not less assistance, just less offset.

you guys keep thinking that blade irons are hard to hit. I'm telling you that it's not true. Build a sound swing and you can hit with anything. If you're playing golf with the mentality of trying to play well while getting away with a swing that looks like Charles Barkley's, you're deceiving yourself.

well said sir. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:58 am

watermyforrest wrote:
I am still waiting for your Adams driver sale Wink

Me too! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Blades vs Cavity Backs   Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:08 am

botak wrote:
watermyforrest wrote:
I am still waiting for your Adams driver sale Wink

Me too! Laughing


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