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PostSubject: in to out; out to in swing   Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:31 pm

i'm trying to visualise what an in-to-out and out-to-in swing looks like? Which causes a slice and which causes a hook? anyone can help?
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:41 pm

out-to-in causes a slice for sure coz you're cutting the ball, causing a spin.. in-to-out MAY cause a hook if done wrongly...

my 2 cents....
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:50 pm









just google and you get a whole series of answers

Below is a good read.

http://thesandtrap.com/playing_tips/ball_flight_laws
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:58 pm

very helpful...thanks...
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:10 pm

Eiji, The last table you posted with the clubface angles/swing paths are related to the old ball flight laws that have since been proven to be incorrect.
The article link from sandtrap you posted explains this well
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:54 am

Hello Paul, are the below correct? I got it at first then im lost....

So a fade is closed face (first) and outside path (second)?

A draw is open face and inside path?

Hook is closed face and square path.

Slice is open face and square path.

Pushslice is open face and outside path.

A nasty pull hook is closed face and inside path.



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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:02 am

Bro, the basic is that the first path of the flight is determined by the clubface.
The flight started left means closed face, straight means square, and right means open.
The later part of the flight, whether turn left, straight or right is then determined by the swing path.
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:46 am

Ahh ok bro... So the hook/slice causes were wrong. Those combos create pull and push instead.
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:46 am



a good image depicting the new laws.

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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:25 am

pushslice wrote:
Hello Paul, are the below correct? I got it at first then im lost....

So a fade is closed face (first) and outside path (second)?

A draw is open face and inside path?

Hook is closed face and square path.

Slice is open face and square path.

Pushslice is open face and outside path.

A nasty pull hook is closed face and inside path.




"pushslice" - refer to number 9 on the last post by eiji and you will see what causes a "pushslice" Idea
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:51 am

Thank you eiji/paul

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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:16 am

I am now confused? which chart is the correct one?
My bad swing tend to pull, so what causes that?
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PostSubject: Re: in to out; out to in swing   Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:22 am

Bro SBY, when you figure this out....you teach me ok???

In the meantime, I live and let live.....
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