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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:37 pm

asahi wrote:
duffader wrote:
actually, i spotted a mistake which is the cause of why his shots keep going left.... but i will only tell him after the 15th.... Smile

Psst psst, tell me leh. Promise I won't tell him before 15th.
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Hehehhee..... nice try TD.....
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:39 pm

mUAr_cHEe wrote:
alvin7379 wrote:
Where to find Greg Park ah?

where the horses are...

go down and all the way to the left..
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:39 pm

duffader wrote:
asahi wrote:
duffader wrote:
actually, i spotted a mistake which is the cause of why his shots keep going left.... but i will only tell him after the 15th.... Smile

Psst psst, tell me leh. Promise I won't tell him before 15th.
Beer

Hehehhee..... nice try TD.....

sneaky civil servants who got caught never got promoted.... unless u get ippt gold and marksman in shooting at least 3 years consecutively...
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:52 pm

Cyp_PGA wrote:

The coach that have video analysis are the best . You can see all the good thing and bad thing you do

akhild wrote:

the best coach will first transform you from unknowingly crappy to knowingly crappy (realize your mistake).

I think both Cyp_PGA and akhild made very important points. (quoted and highlighted in orange) Smile

At ranges, I like to steal glances at coaches giving single lessons. The most common thing heard was both coach and student debating what the student was doing in the swing.

The student thinks he was executing his swing one way while the coach sees a totally different thing. That's when trust breaks down and the session goes downhill. Eventually, the student parts with his money grudgingly and the coach mutters under his breath never to teach this chap again!

A video solves this problem immediately! Very Happy

My thoughts are, while we may have our unique idiosyncracies, the most fundamental basics of a golf swing remains the same for everyone --- hitting down on the ball, flat left wrist at impact, clubhead lag and swing plane. How we achieve all these becomes our unique personal journeys. And the greatest obstacle in this quest is self-awareness. We think we are swinging a certain way but in fact we are doing something else. Laughing

So far, my non-golfing wife has been my best coach! Rolling Eyes Shocked All she does is, she patiently asks what I am trying to do and where I am trying to hit the ball BEFORE she videos that one single shot for me. So, at the range, it becomes one spoken objective, one hit, one video, one result. (.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz

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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:54 pm

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(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


in cash or toilet-washing-sessions-equivilant?
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:56 pm

r510tp wrote:
(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


my wife charges me a LV bag...... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:57 pm

slinger wrote:
r510tp wrote:
(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


my wife charges me a LV bag...... Sad

hao lian......
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:57 pm

slinger wrote:
r510tp wrote:
(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


my wife charges me a LV bag...... Sad

more than that ba?
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:58 pm

The last time I tried asking my wifey taking a video of my swing... my iPhone flew as far out as my drive...... White Flag
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:58 pm

mUAr_cHEe wrote:
slinger wrote:
r510tp wrote:
(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


my wife charges me a LV bag...... Sad

more than that ba?

after the LV bag, he ask for scrub back loh.... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:00 pm

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The last time I tried asking my wifey taking a video of my swing... my iPhone flew as far out as my drive...... White Flag

she has a good arm...
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:03 pm

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The last time I tried asking my wifey taking a video of my swing... my iPhone flew as far out as my drive...... White Flag


your wife must have tried to follow your swing......so fast...till it flew lor.....next time ask wife wear glove la
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:04 pm

duffader wrote:
mUAr_cHEe wrote:
slinger wrote:
r510tp wrote:
(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


my wife charges me a LV bag...... Sad

more than that ba?

after the LV bag, he ask for scrub back loh.... Smile


what i remember is that he asks to scrub her back, right?
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:12 pm

mUAr_cHEe wrote:
slinger wrote:
r510tp wrote:
(.....and she charges me only half-price per session!) Razz


my wife charges me a LV bag...... Sad

more than that ba?

more like half your fortune Razz if anything goes wrong Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:15 pm

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My thoughts are, while we may have our unique idiosyncracies, the most fundamental basics of a golf swing remains the same for everyone --- hitting down on the ball, flat left wrist at impact, clubhead lag and swing plane. How we achieve all these becomes our unique personal journeys. And the greatest obstacle in this quest is self-awareness. We think we are swinging a certain way but in fact we are doing something else. Laughing

I can't agree more.
It kinda sums up for golfers of any level.

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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:25 pm

mUAr_cHEe wrote:
alvin7379 wrote:
Where to find Greg Park ah?

where the horses are...

AHAH pretty much


he is wroking in eng neo avenue at Green Fairway
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:50 pm

Cyp_PGA wrote:
mUAr_cHEe wrote:
alvin7379 wrote:
Where to find Greg Park ah?

where the horses are...

AHAH pretty much


he is wroking in eng neo avenue at Green Fairway

Greg is a nice guy. He's been my coach for the last...hmm...

12 years!!!!!!!!!

since he came from Aussie-land and coached at Toa Payoh in the 1990s.

The good thing about Greg is that he is a left-hander and it's basically a mirror image for us.

If you are at Green Fairways, go to the end of the lower bays and you will not miss a "botak" ang-moh there
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:11 pm

sandkie wrote:
Hi, Alvin

I did not have a coach for first 2 years of my golfing experience. Only last year I engaged a personal coach and here is my experience...
1. I was surprised that he did not tweak my swing...
2. I was surprised that he did not tweak my putting strokes...
Because I was expecting above when I decided to engage a coach

Instead,
1. I learned how to do pre-shot routine.
2. I learned how to do bunker shot because he saw me doing badly with it when we play together.
3. I learned a lot of short games drills and technique: chipping, pitching, putting.

I feel that it is important for us to find a coach whom we can really trust. I can imagine if I didn't trust my coach, I would not want to do what he wanted me to do because it was against my expectation. At the end of the day, both hands need to clap..



I agree with you. My swing was not changed by him.. but he thought me what to practice and how to practice, and also bring me to course and showed me how to apply..

come to think of it.. long time never go course with him to complete my lessons..he is Mr T**** Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:01 pm

For an intermediate player, I will still recommend going for a 1 on 1 package if you find a good pro.

The lessons don't have to be weekly but timely in between so progress can be tracked.

I'm also all for video analysis.

Like someone mentioned, it ends all debate when you see yourself swing. Most of the time, it will be totally different from what you thought you were doing.

If your coach didn't use video and told you you were doing something, you will definitely have that doubt in mind that you are definitely doing 'something right' instead of what he says. Thats just natural because you have been playing the game for a while and have hit good shots before vs a total beginner.

Sorry to say but I definitely think foreign coaches are better than locals when it comes to teaching. Their route to being a teaching professional is just more systematic, structured and organised. What they go thru is not what a local caddy who qual-ed thru SPGA testing shooting under 80 for the test rounds will know and learn in their lifetime.

I'm not saying there aren't any good local coaches but your chances of finding a good local one are tougher than finding a good foreign one.

If a coach can explain your swing to you simply like this where you can understand what you were doing wrong, then I think he is plenty good enough.
(Sorry for the repost of this vid)



If you can go back with that 'light bulb effect over your head' feeling after the lesson, then you know that he and you are well on the way accomplishing the common goal which is to help you get better by understanding your own swing.

Shortgame training is alot tougher. For an intermediate player, un-learning what you thought were your fundamentals in chipping, pitching and bunker play might be alot tougher than learning it first hand. Many will be reluctant to change as some minor success has been seen on the golf course. If you are the type who is always open to ideas, then mebbe picking up the correct techniques will be faster than expected.

Lastly, most players suffer more on the range then learn from their kakis.

Not saying picking up tidbits and 'tips' from friends is not right but honestly, if they struggle to break 90 or 80 themselves, how much of their info do you think is correct anyway?

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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:32 pm

Bro S70B, you should print the above and laminate and give it to you know who....
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:33 pm

duffader wrote:
Bro S70B, you should print the above and laminate and give it to you know who....

No need lah. S70B giving you-know-who personal attention. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:37 pm

asahi wrote:
duffader wrote:
Bro S70B, you should print the above and laminate and give it to you know who....

No need lah. S70B giving you-know-who personal attention. Razz

But capt slinger is giving you-know-who the moolah to keep S70B company, and when there is an opportunity, the you-know-who will strike.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:00 am

so... who the hell is you-know-who???? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:56 am

bro alvin ... fyi, sand save means making par from sand, and not getting the ball out of the bunker ... even pros also find it hard to achieve 100% sand saves ...
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PostSubject: Re: How do you know if you got the right coach??   Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:11 am

zhenxua wrote:
bro alvin ... fyi, sand save means making par from sand, and not getting the ball out of the bunker ... even pros also find it hard to achieve 100% sand saves ...

Chipmunk tio suan.....
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